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Filename: FEATURES/HDPROJ2
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File size: 0DF5 bytes
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Exec address: 4F525044
File contents
Advantages and Disadvantages of a Hard Drive 
******************************************** 

 
Advantages 
++++++++++ 

There are two obvious advantages to a Hard Drive, the first being that 
it can store masses amounts of data and programs and the other its 
speed.  I have already transferred about 60% of floppies using just 
over 5 Mega bytes of disc space, the reason I haven't transferred 
everything will come to light under the heading of disadvantages. 
 
......speed.... 
 
To give you some idea of the data transfer speed I set up a simple 
test, spell check a View document with Viewspell (disc based 
dictionary) in MODE 3. 
 
The system : Electron using ADFS with 3.5" floppy drive and the Hard 
drive.  Viewspell with the EXAMPLE document - 429 words 210 unique 
words 
 
I also tried the same test on the BBC. 
 
The system : BBC B+ using ADFS with 3.5" floppy drive, a 5.25" floppy 
drive with DFS and the Hard drive.   
 
         --------------------------------------- 
        :   MACHINE    : 3.5"FD : 5.25"FD : HD  : 
        :--------------:--------:---------:-----: 
        : Electron (N) : 1m 22s :  N/A    : 26s : 
        : Electron (T) : 1m 22s :  N/A    : 16s : 
        :---------------------------------------: 
        : BBC B+ ADFS  : 2m     :  N/A    : 15s : 
        : BBC B+ DFS   : N/A    : 2m 38s  : N/A : 
         --------------------------------------- 
 
It can be seen from the results that the Electron is hanging around 
waiting to get the data from the floppy drive since there is no gain 
in speed between Normal and Turbo modes.  When it comes the the Hard 
drive however the drive is hanging around for waiting for the Electron 
to accept more data, no doubt if the Electron could go faster the time 
would reduce further for the check. 
 
One other side effect of the hard drive is that there is no longer any 
screen flickering in Modes 0 to 3. 
 
 
Disadvantages 
------------- 
 
The disadvantages arise from incompatible software e.g. 
 
T2P3 - You can store all the files on the HD, you can type *T2P3 and 
get a full menu, but, if you select a file then the computer goes to 
the Floppy drive!!!!! 
 
Click - Click is great, using EXTREE for file management is a must but 
the one important facility it claims it has does not work and that is 
the HD BACKUP!!!! 
 
STOP PRESS 64 - This program was written with floppy discs in mind so 
I can't blame the package but the drive selection option allows 
drives, 0 to 3 to be selected, the drive numbers with the HD attached 
are 0 (HD), 4 and 5 (FD) so I can't pick up screens, pages, fonts from 
the floppy drives.  One other limitation within Stop Press is that the 
full path name can't be used with the keyboard options when LOADing 
and SAVing.  I must say at this point that loading pages and screens 
takes only a couple seconds and if the points mentioned above can get 
sorted it then for speed and ease of use it's the best (monochrome) 
DTP package on the market. 
 
Well that's it, if anyone wants help or advise about fitting a Hard 
Disc Drive to their Electron then please write, I will do my best to 
help. 

THANKS DEREK FOR ANOTHER REALLY INTERESTING ARTICLE.

I AM  IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING A HOST ADAPTOR FOR THE ELK USING 
CIRCUITS FROM VARIOUS SOURCES NOT LEAST DEREK. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED 
IN POSSABLY HAVING A HARD DISK ON THEIR ELK COULD THEY CONTACT ME ASAP 
SO THAT I CAN GAUGE INTEREST?

ALSO I DESPERATELY NEED HELP FROM SOMEONE WITH ACCESS TO ULTRA VIOLET 
DOUBLE SIDED PCB MAKING FACILITIES. IF ANYONE CAN HELP CONTACT ME NOW!
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00000d90  20 57 49 54 48 20 41 43  43 45 53 53 20 54 4f 20  | WITH ACCESS TO |
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00000df0  4e 4f 57 21 0d                                    |NOW!.|
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