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This website contains an archive of files for the Acorn Electron, BBC Micro, Acorn Archimedes, Commodore 16 and Commodore 64 computers, which Dominic Ford has rescued from his private collection of floppy disks and cassettes.
Some of these files were originally commercial releases in the 1980s and 1990s, but they are now widely available online. I assume that copyright over them is no longer being asserted. If you own the copyright and would like files to be removed, please contact me.
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| Filename: | +edit1 |
| Read OK: | ✔ |
| File size: | 0FF7 bytes |
| Load address: | 2B206576 |
| Exec address: | 74696465 |
File contents
Firstly I really must offer apologies to Dominic Ford. He sent part 2 of his solution to his excellent game SHIPWREAKED and another amazing screen for EUG32 and I forgot to put either in. Part 2 is in this EUG together with part 3. The screen is for EUG32 and the number needs a better brain than mine to change it. So Dominic, I really am sorry. Can you change the number? Several members have contacted me regarding difficulties getting printouts. The problem with the one pass print routine was that instead of recognising P for print the program expected N for some reason. This has been fixed. There is an outstanding problem with the option of page skip. I cannot find the solution as yet, so please, don't select page skip when requesting a printout of text. Like many people here in the UK I have been listening to endless people apparently, especially employers moaning about current education standards and claiming that the A level pass rates are high because standards are too low. Now I am not an expert on education but it seems to me that no matter what happens people moan and I am not really sure that this is necessary or desirable. The exam results represent the culmination of a lot of very hard work for a lot of people and to have these rubbished by business men who are basically looking to shift the blame for their own inadequacies onto others is unfair. It is surely the responsibility of an employer to use his resources to their best advantage. If he isn't capable of this then perhaps he shouldn't be an employer. In my job I use a lot of tools some very specialised. The job which I do depends upon my skill using my tools. If the job is not up to scratch it's my fault. Not my tools. If my tools are faulty, then it's my fault for not repairing, replacing or maintaining them. If a tool is inadequate then it's my fault for buying that tool. I don't buy anything with the name Black and Decker for instance because everything they sell with the possable exception of the Workmate is rubbish. It's my responsibility to select the right tools and to use them to their full advantage. So it is with employers. If they want better staff then perhaps if they offered better pay and conditions and didn't treat them as if they should be grateful for being alive then they might get a better result. One thing that really does bug me is when I see one of these employers driving to work in a big shiney new car, going into a comfortable office and drinking a cup of fresh coffee then moaning about his staff who are sitting 2 minutes over in some grotty canteen drinking lukewarm coffee from a machine because they are discussing how they are going to be able to afford a rise in the busfare to get to work in the morning. Businessmen need a proper reward for their effort and gamble but but if they put rubbish in they shouldn't be surprised when they get rubbish out. Now that did feel good. Anumber of members especially some of those who have joined more recently say that they want information on various computer related topics. This is what EUG is for. I do try to keep up but I frequently forget or lose a specific request. Can I ask all members, if there are any areas on which you would like some information then how about writing a list? Try to be a specific as possable. If you say Games Programming, well this can take many forms, almost as many as there are games. However it is often difficult to be very specific if you have very little information to start with. So if you want to know about games programming, write it doun and send it in together with anything else you want to know about. Many members have a lot of knowledge in some areas and would be only too glad to share it. Few of us know as much as Richard Dimond of course but he is always ready to help. If you want to know about something which has already been covered in EUG then I will try to list the discs which covered it. Additional information and help on anything which hasn't been covered can then be dealt with. Gus Donnachaidh. Aug 1997 Tel 01705 781168
00000000 46 69 72 73 74 6c 79 20 49 20 72 65 61 6c 6c 79 |Firstly I really| 00000010 20 6d 75 73 74 20 6f 66 66 65 72 20 61 70 6f 6c | must offer apol| 00000020 6f 67 69 65 73 20 74 6f 20 44 6f 6d 69 6e 69 63 |ogies to Dominic| 00000030 20 46 6f 72 64 2e 20 48 65 20 73 65 6e 74 20 70 | Ford. He sent p| 00000040 61 72 74 20 32 20 6f 66 0d 68 69 73 20 73 6f 6c |art 2 of.his sol| 00000050 75 74 69 6f 6e 20 74 6f 20 68 69 73 20 65 78 63 |ution to his exc| 00000060 65 6c 6c 65 6e 74 20 67 61 6d 65 20 53 48 49 50 |ellent game SHIP| 00000070 57 52 45 41 4b 45 44 20 61 6e 64 20 61 6e 6f 74 |WREAKED and anot| 00000080 68 65 72 20 61 6d 61 7a 69 6e 67 20 73 63 72 65 |her amazing scre| 00000090 65 6e 0d 66 6f 72 20 45 55 47 33 32 20 61 6e 64 |en.for EUG32 and| 000000a0 20 49 20 66 6f 72 67 6f 74 20 74 6f 20 70 75 74 | I forgot to put| 000000b0 20 65 69 74 68 65 72 20 69 6e 2e 20 50 61 72 74 | either in. Part| 000000c0 20 32 20 69 73 20 69 6e 20 74 68 69 73 20 45 55 | 2 is in this EU| 000000d0 47 20 74 6f 67 65 74 68 65 72 0d 77 69 74 68 20 |G together.with | 000000e0 70 61 72 74 20 33 2e 20 54 68 65 20 73 63 72 65 |part 3. The scre| 000000f0 65 6e 20 69 73 20 66 6f 72 20 45 55 47 33 32 20 |en is for EUG32 | 00000100 61 6e 64 20 74 68 65 20 6e 75 6d 62 65 72 20 6e |and the number n| 00000110 65 65 64 73 20 61 20 62 65 74 74 65 72 20 62 72 |eeds a better br| 00000120 61 69 6e 0d 74 68 61 6e 20 6d 69 6e 65 20 74 6f |ain.than mine to| 00000130 20 63 68 61 6e 67 65 20 69 74 2e 20 53 6f 20 44 | change it. So D| 00000140 6f 6d 69 6e 69 63 2c 20 49 20 72 65 61 6c 6c 79 |ominic, I really| 00000150 20 61 6d 20 73 6f 72 72 79 2e 20 43 61 6e 20 79 | am sorry. 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Try to be | 00000ce0 61 20 73 70 65 63 69 66 69 63 20 61 73 0d 70 6f |a specific as.po| 00000cf0 73 73 61 62 6c 65 2e 20 49 66 20 79 6f 75 20 73 |ssable. If you s| 00000d00 61 79 20 47 61 6d 65 73 20 50 72 6f 67 72 61 6d |ay Games Program| 00000d10 6d 69 6e 67 2c 20 77 65 6c 6c 20 74 68 69 73 20 |ming, well this | 00000d20 63 61 6e 20 74 61 6b 65 20 6d 61 6e 79 20 66 6f |can take many fo| 00000d30 72 6d 73 2c 0d 61 6c 6d 6f 73 74 20 61 73 20 6d |rms,.almost as m| 00000d40 61 6e 79 20 61 73 20 74 68 65 72 65 20 61 72 65 |any as there are| 00000d50 20 67 61 6d 65 73 2e 20 48 6f 77 65 76 65 72 20 | games. However | 00000d60 69 74 20 69 73 20 6f 66 74 65 6e 20 64 69 66 66 |it is often diff| 00000d70 69 63 75 6c 74 20 74 6f 20 62 65 0d 76 65 72 79 |icult to be.very| 00000d80 20 73 70 65 63 69 66 69 63 20 69 66 20 79 6f 75 | specific if you| 00000d90 20 68 61 76 65 20 76 65 72 79 20 6c 69 74 74 6c | have very littl| 00000da0 65 20 69 6e 66 6f 72 6d 61 74 69 6f 6e 20 74 6f |e information to| 00000db0 20 73 74 61 72 74 20 77 69 74 68 2e 20 53 6f 20 | start with. 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