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Filename: L/+bell1
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File size: 10E9 bytes
Load address: 2B204556
Exec address: 6C6C6562
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File contents
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* Mark Bellis,  118, The Lawns,  Rolleston-on-Dove,  Burton-on Trent,   *
* Staffs,  DE13 9DE.                                                    *
* Letter, March 1998                                                    *
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It seems that, sadly, there are more and more reasons for me to have to
buy a (spit) PC in the near future.

One of these is that some mail order companies, such as RS (electronics
and other hardware) no longer produce a paper catalogue (it used to be
in three volumes for about 42000 products), and prefer to issue it on
CD-Rom.

I'm all for CD-Roms, but the trusty old 8-bit Acorns won't run them.

The real question is: Can I hold off having to get a PC till the processor
is a RISC one which uses very little power and requires no heatsink or
fan, like the Apple Mac and Acorn RISC PC processors.

It is this transition to RISC, with PC techie experts having acknowledged
that the limits of CISC Pentiums have almost been reached, which is a good
reason not to buy a PC for the next 2-3 years if possible.

It would represent a major technology change, with all existing PCs
becoming obsolete, as Windows would have to be completely re-written for
RISC architecture.  Out of the window goes MMX technology, which was a
"let's make the processor even more CISC than before" feature.

I don't think it would be possible to simply put all the new RISC bits in
a socket-7 box to plug into the Pentium II slot on the motherboard, as
RISC affects the whole philosophy and aims of the computer's hardware and
software architecture.

If you thought Pentium II machines for under 1000 pounds was good, wait
till they're under 500.  I predict that the change to RISC will stun the
PC world as much as the Millennium bug.

Of course, there are other reasons for having a PC:

Running PCB-design CAD packages.
The internet (it's very easy to get addicted)
Games (not a personal reason - the ones on the beeb are good enough)
Lots more fonts and proportional-width word processing.
Spreadsheet with variablecolumnwidth(Iwishitwereeasier to do in
 Viewsheet)
Better screen resolution, with more colours.

However, most of these can be done just as well by a Mac or Acorn machine,
and Macs are well-known for being better for CAD applications.

At least I have one very good  excuse not to buy a PC soon - I haven't any
more space in my room.  It will have to wait till I've bought my own
house, and then of course I'll have no cashfor a while, as it will be
taken up by decorating and buying furniture.

Before I can buy a PC, I'll have to buy a table to put it on, so this will
delay the purchase for a year or two.  Problem solved!

In the meantime,I'llcontinue to make the Master 128 doasmuch as
possible - will a 522-address database suffice?

I've used the RS Catalogue on CD ROM. It is quite good if you know what
you want but it's a pain for brousing. There are some interesting tools
such as search but I found these to be not too good. I asked for a list of
all the LS chips, and none were found, I asked for specific chips, none.
These are in there but the search just couldn't locate them. I probably
did something wrong but who cares? I just got out the Farnel catalogue.

CD ROMs are im my opinion the top reason for buying a PC second is the
Internet. Some of the titles are really intersting. 

I think I've said before I have a 386 PC so neither of these is available
to me. I have a word processor on it but prefer the quickness of my Elk. I
find most PC word processors take too much for granted and seem to be so
complicated to use. I hate these error windows. I sometimes want to punch
the screen. If it's so good why can't it tell me how I should do someting?

Thanks for your tip about RISC. I have been thinking for a while about
getting another PC and have held off because my suspicions about this
millennium bug made me think it was a preamble to the launch of some new
machine.

Your comment about a table is also interesting.  Those so called Plam top
PCs ae a bit of a joke. It could be that there will eventually be a full
feature PC which will have true protability, so making the previous model
obsolete.

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