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LETTERS/LETT3B

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Filename: LETTERS/LETT3B
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File size: 0AC4 bytes
Load address: 42204556
Exec address: 540D
File contents
My advice is to buy a copy of the weekly Micro Computer Mart and 
peruse the various advertisements because there is quite a divergence 
in cost even for the same printer. I obtained mine this way through 
Tomorrow's Office at LEEDS. If one does decide to buy a STAR colour 
printer then one needs the BBC DUMPMASTER ROM to dump graphics. Here 
one needs the last line of a program to be *BPRINT P22 to dump a colour 
screen (any colour MODE). *BPRINT P0 or P5 will dump in black and white 
as *PRINT will dump using STARGRAPH. The suffix B goes with DUMPMASTER 
and is not required unless one needs to ensure the command does not go 
to STARGRAPH.

                               LETTER 4

This letter is about my original thoughts on ROM technology to expand 
the capabilities of the Electron and as now updated by the advent of 
Derek Walker's developments.

At first, after collecting too many SLOGGER ROM's (the SLOGGER PLUS 2 
was not then available) to be plugged in at once, I got annoyed by the 
hassle of prising ROM's out after installation (particularly from twin 
cartridges) and so by priority some were put aside and not used. Even 
now I am not keen to take cartridges in and out on a frequent basis. 
More about this when I come to problems.

However, the availablity of Derek Walker's ROM128/256 made me think of 
the possibilities and this advance pretty well coincided with my 
decision to expand my Electron system as a hobby and to keep me going 
in my dotage. Including BASIC I now have a 35 ROM availability and am 
in the process of getting them (except JAFA and ADVANCED PLUS 2) into 
my main computer set up using a combination of straight ROM128's and 
paired ROM's in a cartridge. When page space demands I will transfer my 
Hilbig 2 times 16K module to the JAFA computer as, by then, the BBRAM 
will be sufficient on the main computer.

This amount of ROM availability - for with the ROM128/256 set up one 
can switch ROM's in and out without power down (in itself a vast 
improvement)-one comes across memory problems with the *commands as to 
what clashes may occur, particularly with abbreviated commands. So I 
have drawn up large sheets with ROM's down the left side and letters 
across the top. Now at a glance I can see my complete list of commands 
starting with any letter. To my surprise the only letters not used 
within my present command structure are Q and Y.

Ihope this letter gives food for thought on the possibilities open. If 
anybody takes a recent member's advice to move on to latest 
generation of computer then please let know what's for sale!

                               LETTER 5
To be written later.

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00000aa0  20 20 20 20 20 4c 45 54  54 45 52 20 35 0d 54 6f  |     LETTER 5.To|
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00000ac0  72 2e 0d 0d                                       |r...|
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