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L/+crane1
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| Filename: | L/+crane1 |
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| File size: | 0AF9 bytes |
| Load address: | 2B206576 |
| Exec address: | 6E617263 |
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Dear Gus,
More ramblings.I read recently in 8BS 56,that someone called Mark Usher
was working on making some form of adaptor to allow BBC computers and
similar with an RGB TTL colour output to use a VGA type monitor.This would
allow people such as myself to use the same monitor for both a RiscOs
machine,such as my trusty A3010 and an 8bit machine,such as my trusty Elk.
Do you remember me waxing lyrical about an ex_Reuters monitor I bought
cheap a while ago ? Well that could be used across both platforms,just
needing some fancy leads making up.Anyway sadly it blew up one day and I
couldn't get any parts for it,so I've ended up with a separate monitor for
each computer.This does take up rather a lot of space,so I await further
developments in hopeful anticipation.
I must admit I've always been a bit confused about your use of the term
editorial.I assumed however that as you're the editor,then why not ? I
think if I recall correctly that Will used to have TBATF or TBATE (The Bit
At The Front or End,depending on its position in the mag).Anyway Gus's
Rantings,sounds good to me.I can't say I've particularly noticed any
Politics.As I see it,its just an opportunity,for you to air your views.I
don't always agree with them,but then that's the whole point isn't it ?
To encourage discussion.It's part of what keeps EUG alive.
Anyway I notice my subscription's run out.EUG members are of above
average intelligence,eh ? Well I best renew my membership."We intellectual
types must stick together.A minority group.We could be persecuted".To
misquote some famous comedy or other,which escapes me at the moment.Was it
Fawlty Towers ? Can anyone remember ? Does anyone care ? I think perhaps
another years Prescription is called for Doctor !!
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John Crane 34 St Andrews Walk Harrogate North Yorkshire HG2 7RL
There are some circuits around to do the job of separating the composite
sync but as I remember most use FETs and other nasties. I'll see if I can
find one but I can't promice anything. I didn't have the guts to try the
modification which came with your late monitor.
I wanted an excuse to change the title of editorial for some time. I am
not too sure about rantings so this time I have just entitled it Gus.
I do agree with you about the contribution to the variety of EUG made by
the various letters and such.
I have been reading editroials in past EUGs and noticeds that some of the
comments I made I don't really now 100% agree with. Most of it is not
exactly planned, I think about it but when I came to write I usually just
let it flow.
I'll say again for the benifit of new members and those who've forgotton,
provided the law is not broken nothing will ever be censored in EUG. You
send it, and unless you specifically say otherwise it goes in.
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I must a| 00000310 64 6d 69 74 20 49 27 76 65 20 61 6c 77 61 79 73 |dmit I've always| 00000320 20 62 65 65 6e 20 61 20 62 69 74 20 63 6f 6e 66 | been a bit conf| 00000330 75 73 65 64 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 79 6f 75 72 20 |used about your | 00000340 75 73 65 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 74 65 72 6d 0d |use of the term.| 00000350 65 64 69 74 6f 72 69 61 6c 2e 49 20 61 73 73 75 |editorial.I assu| 00000360 6d 65 64 20 68 6f 77 65 76 65 72 20 74 68 61 74 |med however that| 00000370 20 61 73 20 79 6f 75 27 72 65 20 74 68 65 20 65 | as you're the e| 00000380 64 69 74 6f 72 2c 74 68 65 6e 20 77 68 79 20 6e |ditor,then why n| 00000390 6f 74 20 3f 20 49 0d 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 69 66 20 |ot ? I.think if | 000003a0 49 20 72 65 63 61 6c 6c 20 63 6f 72 72 65 63 74 |I recall correct| 000003b0 6c 79 20 74 68 61 74 20 57 69 6c 6c 20 75 73 65 |ly that Will use| 000003c0 64 20 74 6f 20 68 61 76 65 20 54 42 41 54 46 20 |d to have TBATF | 000003d0 6f 72 20 54 42 41 54 45 20 28 54 68 65 20 42 69 |or TBATE (The Bi| 000003e0 74 0d 41 74 20 54 68 65 20 46 72 6f 6e 74 20 6f |t.At The Front o| 000003f0 72 20 45 6e 64 2c 64 65 70 65 6e 64 69 6e 67 20 |r End,depending | 00000400 6f 6e 20 69 74 73 20 70 6f 73 69 74 69 6f 6e 20 |on its position | 00000410 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 6d 61 67 29 2e 41 6e 79 77 |in the mag).Anyw| 00000420 61 79 20 47 75 73 27 73 0d 52 61 6e 74 69 6e 67 |ay Gus's.Ranting| 00000430 73 2c 73 6f 75 6e 64 73 20 67 6f 6f 64 20 74 6f |s,sounds good to| 00000440 20 6d 65 2e 49 20 63 61 6e 27 74 20 73 61 79 20 | me.I can't say | 00000450 49 27 76 65 20 70 61 72 74 69 63 75 6c 61 72 6c |I've particularl| 00000460 79 20 6e 6f 74 69 63 65 64 20 61 6e 79 0d 50 6f |y noticed any.Po| 00000470 6c 69 74 69 63 73 2e 41 73 20 49 20 73 65 65 20 |litics.As I see | 00000480 69 74 2c 69 74 73 20 6a 75 73 74 20 61 6e 20 6f |it,its just an o| 00000490 70 70 6f 72 74 75 6e 69 74 79 2c 66 6f 72 20 79 |pportunity,for y| 000004a0 6f 75 20 74 6f 20 61 69 72 20 79 6f 75 72 20 76 |ou to air your v| 000004b0 69 65 77 73 2e 49 0d 64 6f 6e 27 74 20 61 6c 77 |iews.I.don't alw| 000004c0 61 79 73 20 61 67 72 65 65 20 77 69 74 68 20 74 |ays agree with t| 000004d0 68 65 6d 2c 62 75 74 20 74 68 65 6e 20 74 68 61 |hem,but then tha| 000004e0 74 27 73 20 74 68 65 20 77 68 6f 6c 65 20 70 6f |t's the whole po| 000004f0 69 6e 74 20 69 73 6e 27 74 20 69 74 20 3f 20 20 |int isn't it ? | 00000500 0d 54 6f 20 65 6e 63 6f 75 72 61 67 65 20 64 69 |.To encourage di| 00000510 73 63 75 73 73 69 6f 6e 2e 49 74 27 73 20 70 61 |scussion.It's pa| 00000520 72 74 20 6f 66 20 77 68 61 74 20 6b 65 65 70 73 |rt of what keeps| 00000530 20 45 55 47 20 61 6c 69 76 65 2e 0d 0d 20 41 6e | EUG alive... An| 00000540 79 77 61 79 20 49 20 6e 6f 74 69 63 65 20 6d 79 |yway I notice my| 00000550 20 73 75 62 73 63 72 69 70 74 69 6f 6e 27 73 20 | subscription's | 00000560 72 75 6e 20 6f 75 74 2e 45 55 47 20 6d 65 6d 62 |run out.EUG memb| 00000570 65 72 73 20 61 72 65 20 6f 66 20 61 62 6f 76 65 |ers are of above| 00000580 0d 61 76 65 72 61 67 65 20 69 6e 74 65 6c 6c 69 |.average intelli| 00000590 67 65 6e 63 65 2c 65 68 20 3f 20 57 65 6c 6c 20 |gence,eh ? Well | 000005a0 49 20 62 65 73 74 20 72 65 6e 65 77 20 6d 79 20 |I best renew my | 000005b0 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 73 68 69 70 2e 22 57 65 20 69 |membership."We i| 000005c0 6e 74 65 6c 6c 65 63 74 75 61 6c 0d 74 79 70 65 |ntellectual.type| 000005d0 73 20 6d 75 73 74 20 73 74 69 63 6b 20 74 6f 67 |s must stick tog| 000005e0 65 74 68 65 72 2e 41 20 6d 69 6e 6f 72 69 74 79 |ether.A minority| 000005f0 20 67 72 6f 75 70 2e 57 65 20 63 6f 75 6c 64 20 | group.We could | 00000600 62 65 20 70 65 72 73 65 63 75 74 65 64 22 2e 54 |be persecuted".T| 00000610 6f 0d 6d 69 73 71 75 6f 74 65 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 |o.misquote some | 00000620 66 61 6d 6f 75 73 20 63 6f 6d 65 64 79 20 6f 72 |famous comedy or| 00000630 20 6f 74 68 65 72 2c 77 68 69 63 68 20 65 73 63 | other,which esc| 00000640 61 70 65 73 20 6d 65 20 61 74 20 74 68 65 20 6d |apes me at the m| 00000650 6f 6d 65 6e 74 2e 57 61 73 20 69 74 0d 46 61 77 |oment.Was it.Faw| 00000660 6c 74 79 20 54 6f 77 65 72 73 20 3f 20 43 61 6e |lty Towers ? Can| 00000670 20 61 6e 79 6f 6e 65 20 72 65 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 | anyone remember| 00000680 20 3f 20 44 6f 65 73 20 61 6e 79 6f 6e 65 20 63 | ? Does anyone c| 00000690 61 72 65 20 3f 20 49 20 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 70 65 |are ? I think pe| 000006a0 72 68 61 70 73 0d 61 6e 6f 74 68 65 72 20 79 65 |rhaps.another ye| 000006b0 61 72 73 20 50 72 65 73 63 72 69 70 74 69 6f 6e |ars Prescription| 000006c0 20 69 73 20 63 61 6c 6c 65 64 20 66 6f 72 20 44 | is called for D| 000006d0 6f 63 74 6f 72 20 21 21 0d 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 |octor !!. | 000006e0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 2d 2d 2d 2d 2d 2d 2d 2d 2d | ---------| 000006f0 2d 2d 2d 0d 4a 6f 68 6e 20 43 72 61 6e 65 20 33 |---.John Crane 3| 00000700 34 20 53 74 20 41 6e 64 72 65 77 73 20 57 61 6c |4 St Andrews Wal| 00000710 6b 20 48 61 72 72 6f 67 61 74 65 20 4e 6f 72 74 |k Harrogate Nort| 00000720 68 20 59 6f 72 6b 73 68 69 72 65 20 48 47 32 20 |h Yorkshire HG2 | 00000730 37 52 4c 0d 0d 0d 1d 54 68 65 72 65 20 61 72 65 |7RL....There are| 00000740 20 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 63 69 72 63 75 69 74 73 20 | some circuits | 00000750 61 72 6f 75 6e 64 20 74 6f 20 64 6f 20 74 68 65 |around to do the| 00000760 20 6a 6f 62 20 6f 66 20 73 65 70 61 72 61 74 69 | job of separati| 00000770 6e 67 20 74 68 65 20 63 6f 6d 70 6f 73 69 74 65 |ng the composite| 00000780 0d 73 79 6e 63 20 62 75 74 20 61 73 20 49 20 72 |.sync but as I r| 00000790 65 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 20 6d 6f 73 74 20 75 73 65 |emember most use| 000007a0 20 46 45 54 73 20 61 6e 64 20 6f 74 68 65 72 20 | FETs and other | 000007b0 6e 61 73 74 69 65 73 2e 20 49 27 6c 6c 20 73 65 |nasties. I'll se| 000007c0 65 20 69 66 20 49 20 63 61 6e 0d 66 69 6e 64 20 |e if I can.find | 000007d0 6f 6e 65 20 62 75 74 20 49 20 63 61 6e 27 74 20 |one but I can't | 000007e0 70 72 6f 6d 69 63 65 20 61 6e 79 74 68 69 6e 67 |promice anything| 000007f0 2e 20 49 20 64 69 64 6e 27 74 20 68 61 76 65 20 |. I didn't have | 00000800 74 68 65 20 67 75 74 73 20 74 6f 20 74 72 79 20 |the guts to try | 00000810 74 68 65 0d 6d 6f 64 69 66 69 63 61 74 69 6f 6e |the.modification| 00000820 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 63 61 6d 65 20 77 69 74 68 | which came with| 00000830 20 79 6f 75 72 20 6c 61 74 65 20 6d 6f 6e 69 74 | your late monit| 00000840 6f 72 2e 0d 0d 49 20 77 61 6e 74 65 64 20 61 6e |or...I wanted an| 00000850 20 65 78 63 75 73 65 20 74 6f 20 63 68 61 6e 67 | excuse to chang| 00000860 65 20 74 68 65 20 74 69 74 6c 65 20 6f 66 20 65 |e the title of e| 00000870 64 69 74 6f 72 69 61 6c 20 66 6f 72 20 73 6f 6d |ditorial for som| 00000880 65 20 74 69 6d 65 2e 20 49 20 61 6d 0d 6e 6f 74 |e time. I am.not| 00000890 20 74 6f 6f 20 73 75 72 65 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 | too sure about | 000008a0 72 61 6e 74 69 6e 67 73 20 73 6f 20 74 68 69 73 |rantings so this| 000008b0 20 74 69 6d 65 20 49 20 68 61 76 65 20 6a 75 73 | time I have jus| 000008c0 74 20 65 6e 74 69 74 6c 65 64 20 69 74 20 47 75 |t entitled it Gu| 000008d0 73 2e 20 0d 0d 49 20 64 6f 20 61 67 72 65 65 20 |s. ..I do agree | 000008e0 77 69 74 68 20 79 6f 75 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 74 |with you about t| 000008f0 68 65 20 63 6f 6e 74 72 69 62 75 74 69 6f 6e 20 |he contribution | 00000900 74 6f 20 74 68 65 20 76 61 72 69 65 74 79 20 6f |to the variety o| 00000910 66 20 45 55 47 20 6d 61 64 65 20 62 79 0d 74 68 |f EUG made by.th| 00000920 65 20 76 61 72 69 6f 75 73 20 6c 65 74 74 65 72 |e various letter| 00000930 73 20 61 6e 64 20 73 75 63 68 2e 0d 0d 49 20 68 |s and such...I h| 00000940 61 76 65 20 62 65 65 6e 20 72 65 61 64 69 6e 67 |ave been reading| 00000950 20 65 64 69 74 72 6f 69 61 6c 73 20 69 6e 20 70 | editroials in p| 00000960 61 73 74 20 45 55 47 73 20 61 6e 64 20 6e 6f 74 |ast EUGs and not| 00000970 69 63 65 64 73 20 74 68 61 74 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 |iceds that some | 00000980 6f 66 20 74 68 65 0d 63 6f 6d 6d 65 6e 74 73 20 |of the.comments | 00000990 49 20 6d 61 64 65 20 49 20 64 6f 6e 27 74 20 72 |I made I don't r| 000009a0 65 61 6c 6c 79 20 6e 6f 77 20 31 30 30 25 20 61 |eally now 100% a| 000009b0 67 72 65 65 20 77 69 74 68 2e 20 4d 6f 73 74 20 |gree with. Most | 000009c0 6f 66 20 69 74 20 69 73 20 6e 6f 74 0d 65 78 61 |of it is not.exa| 000009d0 63 74 6c 79 20 70 6c 61 6e 6e 65 64 2c 20 49 20 |ctly planned, I | 000009e0 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 69 74 20 62 |think about it b| 000009f0 75 74 20 77 68 65 6e 20 49 20 63 61 6d 65 20 74 |ut when I came t| 00000a00 6f 20 77 72 69 74 65 20 49 20 75 73 75 61 6c 6c |o write I usuall| 00000a10 79 20 6a 75 73 74 0d 6c 65 74 20 69 74 20 66 6c |y just.let it fl| 00000a20 6f 77 2e 0d 0d 49 27 6c 6c 20 73 61 79 20 61 67 |ow...I'll say ag| 00000a30 61 69 6e 20 66 6f 72 20 74 68 65 20 62 65 6e 69 |ain for the beni| 00000a40 66 69 74 20 6f 66 20 6e 65 77 20 6d 65 6d 62 65 |fit of new membe| 00000a50 72 73 20 61 6e 64 20 74 68 6f 73 65 20 77 68 6f |rs and those who| 00000a60 27 76 65 20 66 6f 72 67 6f 74 74 6f 6e 2c 0d 70 |'ve forgotton,.p| 00000a70 72 6f 76 69 64 65 64 20 74 68 65 20 6c 61 77 20 |rovided the law | 00000a80 69 73 20 6e 6f 74 20 62 72 6f 6b 65 6e 20 6e 6f |is not broken no| 00000a90 74 68 69 6e 67 20 77 69 6c 6c 20 65 76 65 72 20 |thing will ever | 00000aa0 62 65 20 63 65 6e 73 6f 72 65 64 20 69 6e 20 45 |be censored in E| 00000ab0 55 47 2e 20 59 6f 75 0d 73 65 6e 64 20 69 74 2c |UG. You.send it,| 00000ac0 20 61 6e 64 20 75 6e 6c 65 73 73 20 79 6f 75 20 | and unless you | 00000ad0 73 70 65 63 69 66 69 63 61 6c 6c 79 20 73 61 79 |specifically say| 00000ae0 20 6f 74 68 65 72 77 69 73 65 20 69 74 20 67 6f | otherwise it go| 00000af0 65 73 20 69 6e 2e 1d 0d 0d |es in....| 00000af9
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