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LETTERS/LETT2
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| Filename: | LETTERS/LETT2 |
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| File size: | 1760 bytes |
| Load address: | 4C204556 |
| Exec address: | 32545445 |
File contents
227 CRICKLADE ROAD
SWINDON
WILTSHIRE
SN2 1AE
0793 488020
Electron User Group
25 Bertie Road
South Sea
Hampshire
PO4 8JX
16 September 1994
Dear Gus
It's been nearly a year since I took an active part in EUG, and it
tailedoff in mid writing an article mode. So wedge your time hat on and
let metake you back to the fizzy dizzy days of 1993.
There was at the time a boisterous debate on the merits of VIEW WP. I
haveto say, after uncommonly long consideration mark you, that I find
itneither small nor slow. Using a Slogger MRB (And does anyone know if
theirproducts are still available?) you get a handsome speed increase
(Astested by secretarial lightning typing) and a steady 25082 bytes to
startin all modes under ADFS, or about five thousand words in the
memory, morethan enough to see off the bank manager. (Dear Mr Chadwick,
we have twoproblem customers and Mexico is the other one, yours etc.
Dear Jodrells,Hasta la vista baby ..)
If you really need to express yourself over more than 5K of words in one
sitting the continuous disc processing option of EDIT can be summoned.
Nowthat IS slow and tedious, but it enables files about the size of
your disccapacity to be created. With a hard drive hooked up there is
no reason whythe novel can't be edited in one lump. I don't know why
you'd want tothough, as most passages (Those bits with a common or
distinctive threadwithin a chapter) come in at well under 5K words. I
haven't the wit tothink of any other use that wants a file bigger than
25000kb.
EXPERIENCE DATABASE FOR NEWCOMERS
My contribution of the year before last about basic electroneering was
anattempt to start an 'experience database' for newcomers and I had
hopedthat others would chime in with appraisals of the kit I'd missed.
The factthat nothing like that has been seen except for Sloggers
'Click', inclinesme to believe there is either no take up or no desire
to do it.
Because the Elk and its Beeb brothers have such a strong rep for being
easy to use, tough enough to last AND relatively cheap, I believe they
will continue to attract those souls interested in learning to use or
programming computers. These people are not likely to come in with disc
systems akimbo ready to avail themselves EUG discs passim, and could
surely do with a wad of literature on what's what in the (by now) rather
arcane world of Plus what-have-yous with no standard disc system.
Because of this I'd like to have a ready made 'acorn 8 bit experience
database' on paper, about beebs and elks, available to new joiners for
thecost of copying and posting it. I'm willing to do the donkey work if
someone out there will help fill in the gaps on the kit options. Write
tome about Plus(ses) > 1 and other kitsome goodies, preferably on 3.5
ADFS,or 40t 5.25 DFS if you absolutely must, in a WP file.
As for the review of Electron User magazines from the dawn of history,
geta move on won't ya? There are seven years of these things, or
approximately 80 editions and I suggest that unless we can get them
listedat least at the rate of one year per eug disc we will all have
grey hairby the time it's finished. And even that will take until 1996,
think aboutit! May I suggest concentrating on reviews of kit still
commonlyavailable (new or secondhand), languages or programming
techniques? Ithink we realise just how sophisticated we've become in
terms of usingthe machine. I suppose the occasional nod towards stand
out games as well,particularly that (Hugely) brilliant article about
Elite in January 1990.
I've noticed that later editions of eu carried a summary of preceeding
copies, perhaps a way can be found to get these image scanned (say from
each July issue) into an ASCII file as an index to the excellent review
work going on?
Back to databases, are there any Viewstore users out there? What do you
think of it? Have you compared it with Sloggers Starstore? How did it
fare? Is it as easy as View/Sheet? Write to me and get it in the
database!
I ask this because I have Starstore and I'm not too impressed with it.
Itdoes everything it says it will, just not way I like it done.
HOT TIP FOR T2P3.
I have discovered that it is worth having a !boot file for my T2P3 disc
to*UNPLUG both banks in the ABR. If the ABR is inserted it appreciably
slowsup the loading of the T2P3'd game. It is not necessary to *INSERT
the rambanks after finishing with T2P3.
Regards,
CHRISTOPHER CHADWICK
I THROUGHLY AGREE WITH YOU THAT SLOGGERS STARSTORE 1 & 2 ARE PRETTY
FEEBLE. I HAVE RECENTLY GOT A HOLD OF VIEWSTORE AND WHILE I HAVEN'T YET
HAD TIME TO GET INTO IT PROPERLY YET IT LOOKS GOOD.
I HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT BILL BRADBURY ON 0992 464240 WHO NOW HANDLES
SLOGGER PRODUCTS BUT I CONTINUALLY GET HIS ANSWERING MACHINE. I HAVE
LEFT MESSAGES BUT HE HAS AS YET FAILED TO CONTACT ME. THE LAST TIME I
SPOKE TO HIM AT THE BEGINNING OF AUGUST I OFFERED HIM ADVERTISING SPACE
ON EUG16 BUT HE DIDN'T GET BACK TO ME ABOUT THAT EITHER. I MAY BE WRONG
BUT I GET THE FEELING THAT HE IS NOT REALLY INTERESTED IN SLOGGER. IF
THAT IS THE CASE IT MIGHT BE NICE IF HE COULD PASS IT OVER TO SOMEONE
WHO IS.
DID YOU LIKE THE DATABASE FROM EUG14? I ALSO HAVE A NEW DATABASE COURTASY
OF EUG PROGRAMMING BOFFIN, RICHARD. IT WILL APPEAR IN A FUTURE ISSUE BUT
IS DESIGNED TO HOLD ALL THAT INFORMATION I NEED TO KEEP ABOUT THE
MEMBERS, ADDRESSES, SUBS, MEMBER'S CODES ECT.
I DO LIKE YOUR IDEA OF COMPILING A DATABASE OF PRODUCTS. I HAD THIS IN
MIND FOR ISSUE 20. SEE THE EDITORIAL.
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