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Filename: LETTS2
Read OK:
File size: 1D70 bytes
Load address: FFFF1D00
Exec address: FFFF8023
File contents
   10MODE3:VDU23,1,0;0;0;0;:VDU14:PRINT''"PRESS <SHIFT> TO SCROLL"'':PROCtext
   20REPEAT:PRINT''"PLEASE PRESS <F> FOR NEXT FILE, <P> TO PRINT TEXT, <M> FOR MAIN MENU"
   30REPEAT:A%=INSTR("FMP",GET$):UNTILA%
   40IFA%=1 THENCHAIN"$.LETTS3"
   50IFA%=2 THENCHAIN"$.MENU"
   60IFA%=3 THENVDU15:VDU2:PROCtext:VDU3
   70UNTIL FALSE
   80END
   90DEF PROCtext
  100PRINT"ROAMING THROUGH THE ROMS"
  110PRINT"************************"
  120PRINT"My system comprises Electron, Plus-1, Plus-3, recently acquired"
  130PRINT"double-sided drive, Citizen 224 printer, Nightingale modem (currently"
  140PRINT"little used) and cartridges with Pace comms/serial link, View, Viewsheet,"
  150PRINT"PMS Near Text Quality ROMs and (almost unused)  Lisp."
  160PRINT
  170PRINT"Offhand I could only think of a few items that I have come across in the"
  180PRINT"use of these that I could contribute to any 'pool' of hints, tips, and"
  190PRINT"problem-solving information your group may be collecting, and you may be"
  200PRINT"aware of them already. However, you are free to use them."
  210PRINT
  220PRINT"First the PMS NTQ ROM. This needs to be unplugged or disabled if you want"
  230PRINT"to use any machine code programs that occupy or use the top of page &900"
  240PRINT"(and possibly start at page &A00 ?) because, without any warning in the"
  250PRINT"manual, the control ROM tramples over at least &9C0/1 (sometimes) and"
  260PRINT"&09E/F repeatedly, possibly every event or IRQ ?"
  270PRINT
  280PRINT"Next View (v.E1.0) and some oddments found during use or in Bruce Smith's"
  290PRINT"book on View, which are not mentioned in the official handbook."
  300PRINT
  310PRINT"In command mode, if the 'Bytes free' etc header has scrolled off the"
  320PRINT"screen and you want to check the exact title of the file in memory, just"
  330PRINT"type F <RETURN> (=FINISH from EDIT mode) and View replies"
  340PRINT"'Editing <filename>'."
  350PRINT
  360PRINT"When using EDIT to ammend a long file, you are quite likely to have part"
  370PRINT"of the last sentence in memory and the rest waiting to be read from"
  380PRINT"'oldfile'. In this case you can set Marker 1 at the start of the sentence"
  390PRINT"(or anywhere convenient) and use MORE 1. Now only the text up to the"
  400PRINT"marker will be read will be written to 'newfile', the rest being kept in"
  410PRINT"RAM while the remaining memory is filled from 'oldfile'."
  420PRINT
  430PRINT"Though I have not the details to hand, I know it is possible when using"
  440PRINT"Macros to pass the number registers :A to :Z as parameters and manipulate"
  450PRINT"them, both within and between calls."
  460PRINT
  470PRINT"Features of the later BBC VIEW (3.0 ?) not in my handbook but apparently"
  480PRINT"working OK in the Electron ROM version, include the stored command 'PB'"
  490PRINT"which, if followed by 'OFF', turns off Page Breaks, so that Headers,"
  500PRINT"Footers, and their margins, plus PE/OP/EP are ignored on printout. This is"
  510PRINT"very handy for labels or short pages, since even with HM/TM/FM/BM set to"
  520PRINT"nil, I still seem to get one blank line between pages. 'PB ON' (or 1) will"
  530PRINT"restore Page Breaks later in the document if needed. "
  540PRINT
  550PRINT"When using 'REPLACE' with Folding on, as well as N (no change) or Y"
  560PRINT"(Replace, copying the case of the replaced word), you can also use 'O'."
  570PRINT"The replacing word is then used exactly as typed, as if folding was on."
  580PRINT"Thus with text:-"
  590PRINT
  600PRINT"TEST test Test  TEST test Test  TEST test Test"
  610PRINT
  620PRINT"'REPLACE test Fred' and pressing N,Y,O gives respectively:- "
  630PRINT
  640PRINT"(N) TEST test Test (Y) FRED fred Fred (O) Fred Fred Fred"
  650PRINT
  660PRINT"Of course, replacing 'tEst' with 'Fred' is still no good, giving:-"
  670PRINT
  680PRINT"(N) tEst (Y) fred (O) Fred"
  690PRINT
  700PRINT"since View only checks the rest of the word if the first letter is in"
  710PRINT"upper case."
  720PRINT
  730PRINT"Derek Hilton, Penwortham, Preston."
  740PRINT"**************************************************************************"
  750PRINT"SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT VIEW IS NOW VERY MUCH 'OLD HAT', PERHAPS SO,"
  760PRINT"BUT IT'S NOT HARD TO SEE WHY IT WAS ONCE THOUGHT OF AS A MINOR MARVEL, NOR"
  770PRINT"WHY IT WAS SO EXPENSIVE TO BUY WHEN IT WAS FIRST RELEASED! I DON'T KNOW"
  780PRINT"ABOUT YOU FOLKS, BUT EVEN NOW I AM STILL DISCOVERING LITTLE TRICKS I"
  790PRINT"DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS CAPABLE OF."
  800PRINT"**************************************************************************"
  810PRINT
  820PRINT"GARETH'S GRIPES"
  830PRINT"***************"
  840PRINT"A Richardson: ACP (now PRES) did at one point sell the BBC ViewStore with"
  850PRINT"a addendum and new keystrip for the Electron. Acorn never did a specific"
  860PRINT"Electron version, which is strange as they did View and ViewSheet."
  870PRINT
  880PRINT"YOU: So far the discs for both EUG9 and 10 have not been readable by the"
  890PRINT"drive on my Elk (a Mitsubishi), though are fine on my A5000. You go on"
  900PRINT"about disc space and then put everything on the disc as basic programs and"
  910PRINT"an uncompressed 20k screen ! Oh, and well done for cocking up the key"
  920PRINT"detection in EUG10 !"
  930PRINT
  940PRINT"D Parker: All my article was about was modifying the AP5 to allow you to"
  950PRINT"use a hard disc, it wasn't about the hard discs themselves. If you don't"
  960PRINT"need the tube i/f (I do) or user port then get one of the solidisk ones"
  970PRINT"you mention."
  980PRINT
  990PRINT"ADFS, Winchester wise, should work with the Solidisk i/f as you address"
 1000PRINT"the hard drive directly and thus it can't use a different controller"
 1010PRINT"whether ADFS will drive the floppy side of the Solidisk is another"
 1020PRINT"question. The small PRES 1Mhz bus (as mentioned in the article) uses a PAL"
 1030PRINT"to do the address decoding/timing and thus cannot be modified, I will talk"
 1040PRINT"to the designer of this i/f and see if he will produce a reprogrammed PAL"
 1050PRINT"allowing the hard drive to be addressed, if anybody is interested."
 1060PRINT
 1070PRINT"A 'normal Beeb hard drive' means any drive that will work on the Beeb will"
 1080PRINT"work on the Elk, whether it be using the 1Mhz->SASI->ST-506 cards or just"
 1090PRINT"the 1Mhz->SASI card and a willing SCSI drive."
 1100PRINT
 1110PRINT"I have a Master RAM Board fitted and have had no problems, though I don't"
 1120PRINT"have it in shadow mode as a) I don't trust Slogger's OS and b) don't need"
 1130PRINT"shadow RAM as I have the 2nd proc. The times I have temporarily put it"
 1140PRINT"into shadow mode I've had no problems."
 1150PRINT
 1160PRINT"Gareth Babb, Grimsby, South Humberside."
 1170PRINT"**************************************************************************"
 1180PRINT"COR BLIMEY GUVNOR, IT'S A FAIR COP, YOU GOT BE BANGED TO RIGHTS AND NO"
 1190PRINT"MISTAKE! YOU'RE QUITE RIGHT ABOUT THE KEY DETECTION BEING A LITTLE ON THE"
 1200PRINT"DODGY SIDE (A DOUBLE OR EXTENDED PRESS WAS REQUIRED). I ALSO AGREE THAT"
 1210PRINT"TEXT IN THE FORM BASIC PROGRAMS AND UNCOMPRESSED SCREENS ARE NOT VERY"
 1220PRINT"EFFICIENT USES OF DISC SPACE. I'VE RECEIVED A FEW SUGGESTIONS FOR"
 1230PRINT"IMPROVING THE TEXT SIDE OF THINGS, BUT WITH ONLY ONE EXCEPTION, THEY ONLY"
 1240PRINT"ALLOW ONE FILE AT A TIME TO BE LOADED, SO THIS WOULD BE LIKE FILLING THE"
 1250PRINT"DISC WITH ORDINARY WORD PROCESSOR FILES AND SAYING TO THE READER, ""THERE" 
 1260PRINT"YOU ARE, GET ON WITH IT!"". SOFTWARE TO COMPRESS/DECOMPRESS GRAPHICS"
 1270PRINT"SCREENS WOULD PROBABLY BE A GREAT HELP, ALTHOUGH THE ONLY EXAMPLE OF THIS"
 1280PRINT"KIND OF UTILITY THAT I HAVE EVER SEEN IN ACTION TOOK ALMOST 10 SECONDS TO"
 1290PRINT"DECOMPRESS AND DISPLAY A 20K SCREEN. IF ANYONE CAN OFFER SOME PRACTICAL"
 1300PRINT"ADVICE ON THESE MATTERS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. I DON'T KNOW WHAT"
 1310PRINT"COULD HAVE CAUSED THE DISC LOADING PROBLEMS. APART FROM ONE DISC WHICH WAS"
 1320PRINT"RETURNED BECAUSE IT HAD SOMEHOW BECOME CORRUPTED, I'VE HAD NO OTHER"
 1330PRINT"COMPLAINTS FROM ADFS USERS. PERHAPS THE PROBLEM IS PECULIAR TO YOUR"
 1340PRINT"MITSUBISHI DRIVE."
 1350PRINT"**************************************************************************"
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�O�"SOME PEOPLE ARE SAYING THAT VIEW IS NOW VERY MUCH 'OLD HAT', PERHAPS SO,"
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pO�"YOU: So far the discs for both EUG9 and 10 have not been readable by the"
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�Q�"question. The small PRES 1Mhz bus (as mentioned in the article) uses a PAL"
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