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File size: 0A2B bytes
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Exec address: 64616F67
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  Mr Ron Goad, 7 Chipstead House, Chipstead Road, Cosham, Hants PO6 3JJ.
                       Telephone 01705 - 382918
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Dear Gus,

	I wonder if any of our fellow members can make any comment or offer
any advice on the following minor problem  regarding Joystick operation on
the BBC Master ???	

	Normally I use one of the Voltmace series of joysticks, which gives
faultless operation, on the BBC Master, or on the BBC B.        	
I have now just obtained a rather more complex Joystick, which acording to
the information on the original box is BBC B Compatible. Unfortunately I
do not have a copy of the user instruction book. The Joystick is a ROBO
SYSTEM - Robo Bitstik-Y003.  In addition to the red-fire button there are
two other white buttons whose function I am not sure of, and in addition
to the normal funtion of the joystick lever, the knob can be rotated
through almost 360 degrees.

	The problem that I have is that for some unknown reason, the basic
functions of Left-Right-Up and Down, ALL operate in REVERSE. So for
example to move to the left, the stick has to be pushed to the right !!!!
I am wondering if perhaps unlike a conventional Joystick, this one perhaps
should be software controlled. Any worthwile comments from perhaps a
member who has experience of this particular joystick would be much
appreciated.

	Looking at the internal construction of the unit, in addition to
the left / right and up / down potentiometers, there is also a third
potentiometer which rotates when the joystick lever is twisted. In the
base of the unit there is a small interface pcb which contains a few R's
and C's and an Op-amp chip LM324, plus three presets marked  X max +-, Y
max +-, and Z max +- .

	If anyone can throw any light on this one, I shall be highly
delighted. Now for the real miracle - does anyone have a copy of the
handbook which may have been supplied with these Robo-Bitstiks ??????
Help, help, help, - beg borrow steal   !!!!!!!!!!!!!


                             All the best,

                                               Ron Goad.

25th Feb 99
~~~~~~~~~~~
The LM324 is a quad op-amp. The pin outs are 1: out 1, 2: -in 1, 3: +in 1
4: +V, 5: +in 2, 6: -in 2, 7: out 2, 8: out 3, 9: -in 3, 10: +in 3, 11:
gnd, 12: +in 4, 13: -in 4, 14: out 4

I apparently will work on 3V to 32V or +/- 1.5V to +/- 16V

Hope someone else can put some more light on it

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