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Some tips on dealing with computer problems. I have had a little experience over the years doing fairly simple repairs and some post-mortems on computers. I can't claim to be an expert but I can pass on some of the experience I have gained about what tends to go wrong and why and perhaps some suggestions on what to do about it. I can't claim to have all the answers and sure as fate I won't have the answer to your particular problem. Now I am going to start by saying that the Elk is one of the most reliable computers around. OK, so I like the Elk and I would say that wouldn't I? The sort of problems affecting computers in order are: 1, dirty, corroded or lose contacts. Really this is way up on top of a list and is by far the most common problem. 2, Mechanical wear, power sockets, input and output sockets for monitors, drives, drives themselves which wear out and of course keyboards. 3, poor solder joints often during manufacture but sometimes resulting from extensions and repairs. 4, consequential damage to the electronic components as a result of one of the above. 5, breakdown of an electronic component, and in order these tend to be: capacitors, resistors, transistors, Integrated circuits, or chips ROMs and ULAs I wrote the above because because so many people simply assume that the problem is electronic. With the Master and the Beeb, there were a few design problems and consequently some of the ICs tended to have a shortened life. With PCs and most other modern computers there are a multitude of design problems. With the Elk this doesn't seem to be the case. Though sadly the same cannot be said for every addon used by the Elk. Before starting any work make a drawing of the area you are working on and carefully note the positions of any wires and and components you may work on. Also note which way round components go. Look for anything which appears lose, or blackened or discoloured. Cleaning contacts. A number of methods are used by different people from erasers to dabbing with a cloth socked with some meths'. Really the only proper and effective way is to use a good quality aerosol cleaner such as Electronic Cleaning Solvent from Maplin code FC01B costing about `4.65 or Contact Cleaner Lubricant code DM85G costing about `4.30 Mechanical wear will usually mean replacing the offending plug or socket. If you know someone who can do the repair try to find the replacement component, again Maplin is probably a good source. I had some trouble with my printer a while back, all it would print was endless lines of random charaters when I was using my word-processor. Strangely it didn't seem to happen when I tried to print from BASIC using VDU2. The problem was cured by removing the printer plug at both ends and then replacing. Another problem which I have had more than once are the cartridge slots on my Plus 1 where the contacts have worn and lost their 'spring'. Here I simply had to chop the old slot out, desolder the pins, clean the holes and fit a new slot which I got from you guessed it, Maplin. This is not for the feint hearted and requires some skill with a soldering iron. Keyboards wear out where some keys won't work, This may be the connector between the keyboard and the main computer board or it may be the key itself. I have never found a way of cleaning keys which worked. I think JAFA may be able to help. Or you could do as Derek Walker did and build a new keyboard. Probably not such a bad idea. Lockups, this happens to vurtually all computers from time to time. Make a mental note of when it happens. While using some software, does it occur with other perhaps similar software? While using some addon, try removing the addon and using the computer for a while, you may need to be a little drastic here because it may be your disc drive then you will need to test your Elk by loading some tape software. While accessing a particular ROM. Try removing the ROM to another socket if you have one, if it is in a cartridge which holds two ROMs try swapping the ROMs around. Drives will wear out. I have recently bought a brand new high density 3.5" drive to replace my medium density one. It works perfectly with my Elk and only cost `30. Poor joints can sometimes be difficult to spot even for those with some experience. Look anyway. Where wires are soldered onto the board look carefully at these. The Slogger ROMBox amoung others can produce this problem. Sometimes a wire may need to be completlely replaced. Remember to check its position. If a lose wire is found look for signs of bits of strands on a nearby board. Generally if a wire is streched to it's full length, it's original position will be somewhere near to the end. This is not a golden rule though. Consequential damage is a bigger problem and solving it is bigger still. I wish I could give you some advice here but apart from using a logic pulser and probe I can't. Breakdown of electronic components is also a problem. Sometimes the solution is obvious when you examine the circuit diagram but sometimes it isn't some people may disagree with some of what I have written here and I am open to critisism. However don't what ever you do jump to any snap conclusions when trying to find a fault. Suspect the obvious first ie poor contacts either through dirt or wear or corrision. One final piece of advice I will give, if you see an Elk and/or an Plus1 and/or a Plus 3 or other disc interface going at a reasonable price, buy it. The Elk is worth having if for no other reason that to continue your membership of EUG. And I'm not joking. You might try another more modern computer but I do think you will soon become disillusioned especially when you realise the price of software and the poor reliability. Did you know that a PC costing upwards of `1000 new is designed to last only about 3 to 5 years? And the Elk is still going strong up to 13 years after production not bad really?
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I| 000004e0 6e 74 65 67 72 61 74 65 64 20 63 69 72 63 75 69 |ntegrated circui| 000004f0 74 73 2c 20 6f 72 20 63 68 69 70 73 0d 20 20 20 |ts, or chips. | 00000500 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 52 4f 4d 73 20 61 6e | ROMs an| 00000510 64 20 55 4c 41 73 0d 0d 49 20 77 72 6f 74 65 20 |d ULAs..I wrote | 00000520 74 68 65 20 61 62 6f 76 65 20 62 65 63 61 75 73 |the above becaus| 00000530 65 20 62 65 63 61 75 73 65 20 73 6f 20 6d 61 6e |e because so man| 00000540 79 20 70 65 6f 70 6c 65 20 73 69 6d 70 6c 79 20 |y people simply | 00000550 61 73 73 75 6d 65 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 65 0d |assume that the.| 00000560 70 72 6f 62 6c 65 6d 20 69 73 20 65 6c 65 63 74 |problem is elect| 00000570 72 6f 6e 69 63 2e 20 57 69 74 68 20 74 68 65 20 |ronic. 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With | 00000650 74 68 65 20 45 6c 6b 20 74 68 69 73 20 64 6f 65 |the Elk this doe| 00000660 73 6e 27 74 20 73 65 65 6d 20 74 6f 20 62 65 20 |sn't seem to be | 00000670 74 68 65 0d 63 61 73 65 2e 20 54 68 6f 75 67 68 |the.case. Though| 00000680 20 73 61 64 6c 79 20 74 68 65 20 73 61 6d 65 20 | sadly the same | 00000690 63 61 6e 6e 6f 74 20 62 65 20 73 61 69 64 20 66 |cannot be said f| 000006a0 6f 72 20 65 76 65 72 79 20 61 64 64 6f 6e 20 75 |or every addon u| 000006b0 73 65 64 20 62 79 20 74 68 65 0d 45 6c 6b 2e 0d |sed by the.Elk..| 000006c0 0d 42 65 66 6f 72 65 20 73 74 61 72 74 69 6e 67 |.Before starting| 000006d0 20 61 6e 79 20 77 6f 72 6b 20 6d 61 6b 65 20 61 | any work make a| 000006e0 20 64 72 61 77 69 6e 67 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 | drawing of the | 000006f0 61 72 65 61 20 79 6f 75 20 61 72 65 20 77 6f 72 |area you are wor| 00000700 6b 69 6e 67 20 6f 6e 20 61 6e 64 0d 63 61 72 65 |king on and.care| 00000710 66 75 6c 6c 79 20 6e 6f 74 65 20 74 68 65 20 70 |fully note the p| 00000720 6f 73 69 74 69 6f 6e 73 20 6f 66 20 61 6e 79 20 |ositions of any | 00000730 77 69 72 65 73 20 61 6e 64 20 61 6e 64 20 63 6f |wires and and co| 00000740 6d 70 6f 6e 65 6e 74 73 20 79 6f 75 20 6d 61 79 |mponents you may| 00000750 20 77 6f 72 6b 0d 6f 6e 2e 20 41 6c 73 6f 20 6e | work.on. Also n| 00000760 6f 74 65 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 77 61 79 20 72 6f |ote which way ro| 00000770 75 6e 64 20 63 6f 6d 70 6f 6e 65 6e 74 73 20 67 |und components g| 00000780 6f 2e 20 4c 6f 6f 6b 20 66 6f 72 20 61 6e 79 74 |o. Look for anyt| 00000790 68 69 6e 67 20 77 68 69 63 68 0d 61 70 70 65 61 |hing which.appea| 000007a0 72 73 20 6c 6f 73 65 2c 20 6f 72 20 62 6c 61 63 |rs lose, or blac| 000007b0 6b 65 6e 65 64 20 6f 72 20 64 69 73 63 6f 6c 6f |kened or discolo| 000007c0 75 72 65 64 2e 20 0d 0d 43 6c 65 61 6e 69 6e 67 |ured. ..Cleaning| 000007d0 20 63 6f 6e 74 61 63 74 73 2e 20 41 20 6e 75 6d | contacts. A num| 000007e0 62 65 72 20 6f 66 20 6d 65 74 68 6f 64 73 20 61 |ber of methods a| 000007f0 72 65 20 75 73 65 64 20 62 79 20 64 69 66 66 65 |re used by diffe| 00000800 72 65 6e 74 20 70 65 6f 70 6c 65 20 66 72 6f 6d |rent people from| 00000810 0d 65 72 61 73 65 72 73 20 74 6f 20 64 61 62 62 |.erasers to dabb| 00000820 69 6e 67 20 77 69 74 68 20 61 20 63 6c 6f 74 68 |ing with a cloth| 00000830 20 73 6f 63 6b 65 64 20 77 69 74 68 20 73 6f 6d | socked with som| 00000840 65 20 6d 65 74 68 73 27 2e 20 52 65 61 6c 6c 79 |e meths'. Really| 00000850 20 74 68 65 20 6f 6e 6c 79 0d 70 72 6f 70 65 72 | the only.proper| 00000860 20 61 6e 64 20 65 66 66 65 63 74 69 76 65 20 77 | and effective w| 00000870 61 79 20 69 73 20 74 6f 20 75 73 65 20 61 20 67 |ay is to use a g| 00000880 6f 6f 64 20 71 75 61 6c 69 74 79 20 61 65 72 6f |ood quality aero| 00000890 73 6f 6c 20 63 6c 65 61 6e 65 72 20 73 75 63 68 |sol cleaner such| 000008a0 20 61 73 0d 45 6c 65 63 74 72 6f 6e 69 63 20 43 | as.Electronic C| 000008b0 6c 65 61 6e 69 6e 67 20 53 6f 6c 76 65 6e 74 20 |leaning Solvent | 000008c0 66 72 6f 6d 20 4d 61 70 6c 69 6e 20 63 6f 64 65 |from Maplin code| 000008d0 20 46 43 30 31 42 20 63 6f 73 74 69 6e 67 20 61 | FC01B costing a| 000008e0 62 6f 75 74 20 60 34 2e 36 35 20 6f 72 0d 43 6f |bout `4.65 or.Co| 000008f0 6e 74 61 63 74 20 43 6c 65 61 6e 65 72 20 4c 75 |ntact Cleaner Lu| 00000900 62 72 69 63 61 6e 74 20 63 6f 64 65 20 44 4d 38 |bricant code DM8| 00000910 35 47 20 63 6f 73 74 69 6e 67 20 61 62 6f 75 74 |5G costing about| 00000920 20 60 34 2e 33 30 0d 0d 4d 65 63 68 61 6e 69 63 | `4.30..Mechanic| 00000930 61 6c 20 77 65 61 72 20 77 69 6c 6c 20 75 73 75 |al wear will usu| 00000940 61 6c 6c 79 20 6d 65 61 6e 20 72 65 70 6c 61 63 |ally mean replac| 00000950 69 6e 67 20 74 68 65 20 6f 66 66 65 6e 64 69 6e |ing the offendin| 00000960 67 20 70 6c 75 67 20 6f 72 20 73 6f 63 6b 65 74 |g plug or socket| 00000970 2e 0d 49 66 20 79 6f 75 20 6b 6e 6f 77 20 73 6f |..If you know so| 00000980 6d 65 6f 6e 65 20 77 68 6f 20 63 61 6e 20 64 6f |meone who can do| 00000990 20 74 68 65 20 72 65 70 61 69 72 20 74 72 79 20 | the repair try | 000009a0 74 6f 20 66 69 6e 64 20 74 68 65 20 72 65 70 6c |to find the repl| 000009b0 61 63 65 6d 65 6e 74 0d 63 6f 6d 70 6f 6e 65 6e |acement.componen| 000009c0 74 2c 20 61 67 61 69 6e 20 4d 61 70 6c 69 6e 20 |t, again Maplin | 000009d0 69 73 20 70 72 6f 62 61 62 6c 79 20 61 20 67 6f |is probably a go| 000009e0 6f 64 20 73 6f 75 72 63 65 2e 20 0d 49 20 68 61 |od source. .I ha| 000009f0 64 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 74 72 6f 75 62 6c 65 20 77 |d some trouble w| 00000a00 69 74 68 20 6d 79 20 70 72 69 6e 74 65 72 20 61 |ith my printer a| 00000a10 20 77 68 69 6c 65 20 62 61 63 6b 2c 20 61 6c 6c | while back, all| 00000a20 20 69 74 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 70 72 69 6e 74 20 | it would print | 00000a30 77 61 73 0d 65 6e 64 6c 65 73 73 20 6c 69 6e 65 |was.endless line| 00000a40 73 20 6f 66 20 72 61 6e 64 6f 6d 20 63 68 61 72 |s of random char| 00000a50 61 74 65 72 73 20 77 68 65 6e 20 49 20 77 61 73 |aters when I was| 00000a60 20 75 73 69 6e 67 20 6d 79 20 77 6f 72 64 2d 70 | using my word-p| 00000a70 72 6f 63 65 73 73 6f 72 2e 0d 53 74 72 61 6e 67 |rocessor..Strang| 00000a80 65 6c 79 20 20 69 74 20 64 69 64 6e 27 74 20 73 |ely it didn't s| 00000a90 65 65 6d 20 74 6f 20 68 61 70 70 65 6e 20 77 68 |eem to happen wh| 00000aa0 65 6e 20 49 20 74 72 69 65 64 20 74 6f 20 70 72 |en I tried to pr| 00000ab0 69 6e 74 20 66 72 6f 6d 20 42 41 53 49 43 20 75 |int from BASIC u| 00000ac0 73 69 6e 67 0d 56 44 55 32 2e 20 54 68 65 20 70 |sing.VDU2. The p| 00000ad0 72 6f 62 6c 65 6d 20 77 61 73 20 63 75 72 65 64 |roblem was cured| 00000ae0 20 62 79 20 72 65 6d 6f 76 69 6e 67 20 74 68 65 | by removing the| 00000af0 20 70 72 69 6e 74 65 72 20 70 6c 75 67 20 61 74 | printer plug at| 00000b00 20 62 6f 74 68 20 65 6e 64 73 20 61 6e 64 0d 74 | both ends and.t| 00000b10 68 65 6e 20 72 65 70 6c 61 63 69 6e 67 2e 20 0d |hen replacing. .| 00000b20 41 6e 6f 74 68 65 72 20 70 72 6f 62 6c 65 6d 20 |Another problem | 00000b30 77 68 69 63 68 20 49 20 68 61 76 65 20 68 61 64 |which I have had| 00000b40 20 6d 6f 72 65 20 74 68 61 6e 20 6f 6e 63 65 20 | more than once | 00000b50 61 72 65 20 74 68 65 20 63 61 72 74 72 69 64 67 |are the cartridg| 00000b60 65 20 73 6c 6f 74 73 20 6f 6e 0d 6d 79 20 20 50 |e slots on.my P| 00000b70 6c 75 73 20 31 20 77 68 65 72 65 20 74 68 65 20 |lus 1 where the | 00000b80 63 6f 6e 74 61 63 74 73 20 68 61 76 65 20 77 6f |contacts have wo| 00000b90 72 6e 20 61 6e 64 20 6c 6f 73 74 20 74 68 65 69 |rn and lost thei| 00000ba0 72 20 27 73 70 72 69 6e 67 27 2e 20 48 65 72 65 |r 'spring'. Here| 00000bb0 20 49 0d 73 69 6d 70 6c 79 20 68 61 64 20 74 6f | I.simply had to| 00000bc0 20 63 68 6f 70 20 74 68 65 20 6f 6c 64 20 73 6c | chop the old sl| 00000bd0 6f 74 20 6f 75 74 2c 20 64 65 73 6f 6c 64 65 72 |ot out, desolder| 00000be0 20 74 68 65 20 70 69 6e 73 2c 20 63 6c 65 61 6e | the pins, clean| 00000bf0 20 74 68 65 20 68 6f 6c 65 73 0d 61 6e 64 20 66 | the holes.and f| 00000c00 69 74 20 61 20 6e 65 77 20 73 6c 6f 74 20 77 68 |it a new slot wh| 00000c10 69 63 68 20 49 20 67 6f 74 20 66 72 6f 6d 20 79 |ich I got from y| 00000c20 6f 75 20 67 75 65 73 73 65 64 20 69 74 2c 20 4d |ou guessed it, M| 00000c30 61 70 6c 69 6e 2e 20 54 68 69 73 20 69 73 20 6e |aplin. 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