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Some tips on dealing with computer problems.

I have had a little experience over the years doing fairly simple repairs
and some post-mortems on computers. I can't claim to be an expert but I
can pass on some of the experience I have gained about what tends to go
wrong and why and perhaps some suggestions on what to do about it.

I can't claim to have all the answers and sure as fate I won't have the
answer to your particular problem.

Now I am going to start by saying that the Elk is one of the most reliable
computers around. OK, so I like the Elk and I would say that wouldn't I?

The sort of problems affecting computers in order are:

1, dirty, corroded or lose contacts. Really this is way up on top of a
list and is by far the most common problem.

2, Mechanical wear, power sockets, input and output sockets for monitors,
drives, drives themselves which wear out and of course keyboards.

3, poor solder joints often during manufacture but sometimes resulting
from extensions and repairs.

4, consequential damage to the electronic components as a result of one of
the above.

5, breakdown of an electronic component, and in order these tend to be:

            capacitors,
            resistors,
            transistors,
            Integrated circuits, or chips
            ROMs and ULAs

I wrote the above because because so many people simply assume that the
problem is electronic. With the Master and the Beeb, there were a few
design problems and consequently some of the ICs tended to have a
shortened life. With PCs and most other modern computers there are a
multitude of design problems. With the Elk this doesn't seem to be the
case. Though sadly the same cannot be said for every addon used by the
Elk.

Before starting any work make a drawing of the area you are working on and
carefully note the positions of any wires and and components you may work
on. Also note which way round components go. Look for anything which
appears lose, or blackened or discoloured. 

Cleaning contacts. A number of methods are used by different people from
erasers to dabbing with a cloth socked with some meths'. Really the only
proper and effective way is to use a good quality aerosol cleaner such as
Electronic Cleaning Solvent from Maplin code FC01B costing about `4.65 or
Contact Cleaner Lubricant code DM85G costing about `4.30

Mechanical wear will usually mean replacing the offending plug or socket.
If you know someone who can do the repair try to find the replacement
component, again Maplin is probably a good source. 
I had some trouble with my printer a while back, all it would print was
endless lines of random charaters when I was using my word-processor.
Strangely  it didn't seem to happen when I tried to print from BASIC using
VDU2. The problem was cured by removing the printer plug at both ends and
then replacing. 
Another problem which I have had more than once are the cartridge slots on
my  Plus 1 where the contacts have worn and lost their 'spring'. Here I
simply had to chop the old slot out, desolder the pins, clean the holes
and fit a new slot which I got from you guessed it, Maplin. This is not
for the feint hearted and requires some skill with a soldering iron.
Keyboards wear out where some keys won't work, This may be the connector
between the keyboard and the main computer board or it may be the key
itself. I have never found a way of cleaning keys which worked. I think
JAFA may be able to help. Or you could do as Derek Walker did and build a
new keyboard. Probably not such a bad idea. 

Lockups, this happens to vurtually all computers from time to time. Make a
mental note of when it happens. 
While using some software, does it occur with other perhaps similar
software? 
While using some addon, try removing the addon and using the computer for
a while, you may need to be a little drastic here because it may be your
disc drive then you will need to test your Elk by loading some tape
software.
While accessing a particular ROM. Try removing the ROM to another socket
if you have one, if it is in a cartridge which holds two ROMs try swapping
the ROMs around.
Drives will wear out. I have recently bought a brand new high density 3.5"
drive to replace my medium density one. It works perfectly with my Elk and
only cost `30.

Poor joints can sometimes be difficult to spot even for those with some
experience. Look anyway. Where wires are soldered onto the board look
carefully at these. The Slogger ROMBox amoung others can produce this
problem. Sometimes a wire may need to be completlely replaced. Remember to
check its position. If a lose wire is found look for signs of bits of
strands on a nearby board. Generally if a wire is streched to it's full
length, it's original position will be somewhere near to the end. This is
not a golden rule though.

Consequential damage is a bigger problem and solving it is bigger still. I
wish I could give you some advice here but apart from using a logic pulser
and probe I can't.

Breakdown of electronic components is also a problem. Sometimes the
solution is obvious when you examine the circuit diagram but sometimes it
isn't

some people may disagree with some of what I have written here and I am
open to critisism. However don't what ever you do jump to any snap
conclusions when trying to find a fault. Suspect the obvious first ie
poor contacts either through dirt or wear or corrision.

One final piece of advice I will give, if you see an Elk and/or an Plus1
and/or a Plus 3 or other disc interface going at a reasonable price, buy
it. The Elk is worth having if for no other reason that to continue your
membership of EUG. And I'm not joking. You might try another more modern
computer but I do think you will soon become disillusioned especially when
you realise the price of software and the poor reliability. Did you know
that a PC costing upwards of `1000 new is designed to last only about 3 to
5 years? And the Elk is still going strong up to 13 years after production
not bad really?


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