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         NOT PAYING ENOUGH ATTENTION TO YOUR ELECTRON USERS

WHOEVER unsuccessfully adapted Mr Gunness' solution to SAVAGE ISLAND 
PART ONE last issue - and stated the game was bugged when they couldn't
find the beach - got it wrong! There is NO bug in any version of SAVAGE
ISLAND for the BBC and Electron; getting to the beach is only possible
if a random event generator (when you are SAILing about) happens on one
particular number. Something like IF RND(200)=1 THEN GOTO beach.
   This does make the game infuriating as you do die many times and have
to keep reloading a saved position. It was THIS that ELECTRON USER kept
pointing out, it never said the game was impossible! The writer's memory
is playing tricks on him if he remembers anything else. The best way 
around the problem is to define say *KEY 0 with "Y|MY|MGO RAFT|MSAIL|MGO
BEACH|MSAIL|MGO BEACH|MSAIL..." etc. SAVE the position just before you
attempt to find the beach and then tap the defined key. If you hit the
right location, GO BEACH will put you on it. If not, GO BEACH will have
no effect and you will SAIL again and try again. If you die, wait until
you get the "Play again (Y/N)" prompt and just tap the same key again.
   Alternatively, you could just load in the saved position I've sub-
mitted.
                                                          Josef Williams

OOPS! AFTER replaying the adventure I've found your assertations are 
completely correct. After only one hour of "playing" and loading, I came
across the location I thought wasn't there! It's a very strange adven-
ture that tries this hard to stop you completing it.
   The solution published last issue is correct in all but its claims 
that progression is impossible from the place where it 'ends'. However,
on constructing the full solution taking your saved position into 
account, I have discovered that you actually have to LEAVE the beach and
find it all over again then re-SAVE this second position. 
   As we're coming to the end - Hoorah! - of this series, I've decided
to wait a while before publishing both this 'amended' solution and the
two saved positions. As SAVAGE ISLAND PART ONE is in the Public Domain
now (Well not technically, but its author says anyone may enjoy the 
adventures free of charge!) I will probably publish the game itself 
accompanied by a detailed walkthrough in a future EUG magazine...
                                                     (The) Dave, EUG #56
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00000030  43 54 52 4f 4e 20 55 53  45 52 53 0d 0d 57 48 4f  |CTRON USERS..WHO|
00000040  45 56 45 52 20 75 6e 73  75 63 63 65 73 73 66 75  |EVER unsuccessfu|
00000050  6c 6c 79 20 61 64 61 70  74 65 64 20 4d 72 20 47  |lly adapted Mr G|
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00000070  20 74 6f 20 53 41 56 41  47 45 20 49 53 4c 41 4e  | to SAVAGE ISLAN|
00000080  44 20 0d 50 41 52 54 20  4f 4e 45 20 6c 61 73 74  |D .PART ONE last|
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000000a0  74 65 64 20 74 68 65 20  67 61 6d 65 20 77 61 73  |ted the game was|
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000000e0  69 74 20 77 72 6f 6e 67  21 20 54 68 65 72 65 20  |it wrong! There |
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00000150  20 70 6f 73 73 69 62 6c  65 0d 69 66 20 61 20 72  | possible.if a r|
00000160  61 6e 64 6f 6d 20 65 76  65 6e 74 20 67 65 6e 65  |andom event gene|
00000170  72 61 74 6f 72 20 28 77  68 65 6e 20 79 6f 75 20  |rator (when you |
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00000250  49 74 20 77 61 73 20 54  48 49 53 20 74 68 61 74  |It was THIS that|
00000260  20 45 4c 45 43 54 52 4f  4e 20 55 53 45 52 20 6b  | ELECTRON USER k|
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000004a0  20 73 61 6d 65 20 6b 65  79 20 61 67 61 69 6e 2e  | same key again.|
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000004c0  79 2c 20 79 6f 75 20 63  6f 75 6c 64 20 6a 75 73  |y, you could jus|
000004d0  74 20 6c 6f 61 64 20 69  6e 20 74 68 65 20 73 61  |t load in the sa|
000004e0  76 65 64 20 70 6f 73 69  74 69 6f 6e 20 49 27 76  |ved position I'v|
000004f0  65 20 73 75 62 2d 0d 6d  69 74 74 65 64 2e 0d 20  |e sub-.mitted.. |
00000500  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  |                |
*
00000530  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  20 4a 6f 73 65 66 20 57  |         Josef W|
00000540  69 6c 6c 69 61 6d 73 0d  0d 4f 4f 50 53 21 20 41  |illiams..OOPS! A|
00000550  46 54 45 52 20 72 65 70  6c 61 79 69 6e 67 20 74  |FTER replaying t|
00000560  68 65 20 61 64 76 65 6e  74 75 72 65 20 49 27 76  |he adventure I'v|
00000570  65 20 66 6f 75 6e 64 20  79 6f 75 72 20 61 73 73  |e found your ass|
00000580  65 72 74 61 74 69 6f 6e  73 20 61 72 65 20 0d 63  |ertations are .c|
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000005a0  74 2e 20 41 66 74 65 72  20 6f 6e 6c 79 20 6f 6e  |t. After only on|
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000005c0  6e 67 22 20 61 6e 64 20  6c 6f 61 64 69 6e 67 2c  |ng" and loading,|
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000005e0  68 65 20 6c 6f 63 61 74  69 6f 6e 20 49 20 74 68  |he location I th|
000005f0  6f 75 67 68 74 20 77 61  73 6e 27 74 20 74 68 65  |ought wasn't the|
00000600  72 65 21 20 49 74 27 73  20 61 20 76 65 72 79 20  |re! It's a very |
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00000850  53 41 56 41 47 45 20 49  53 4c 41 4e 44 20 50 41  |SAVAGE ISLAND PA|
00000860  52 54 20 4f 4e 45 20 69  73 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65  |RT ONE is in the|
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00000880  6f 77 20 28 57 65 6c 6c  20 6e 6f 74 20 74 65 63  |ow (Well not tec|
00000890  68 6e 69 63 61 6c 6c 79  2c 20 62 75 74 20 69 74  |hnically, but it|
000008a0  73 20 61 75 74 68 6f 72  20 73 61 79 73 20 61 6e  |s author says an|
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000008e0  49 20 77 69 6c 6c 20 70  72 6f 62 61 62 6c 79 20  |I will probably |
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00000900  20 69 74 73 65 6c 66 20  0d 61 63 63 6f 6d 70 61  | itself .accompa|
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00000920  65 64 20 77 61 6c 6b 74  68 72 6f 75 67 68 20 69  |ed walkthrough i|
00000930  6e 20 61 20 66 75 74 75  72 65 20 45 55 47 20 6d  |n a future EUG m|
00000940  61 67 61 7a 69 6e 65 2e  2e 2e 0d 20 20 20 20 20  |agazine....     |
00000950  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20  |                |
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00000980  28 54 68 65 29 20 44 61  76 65 2c 20 45 55 47 20  |(The) Dave, EUG |
00000990  23 35 36 0d                                       |#56.|
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