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LETTERS/LETT4A
This website contains an archive of files for the Acorn Electron, BBC Micro, Acorn Archimedes, Commodore 16 and Commodore 64 computers, which Dominic Ford has rescued from his private collection of floppy disks and cassettes.
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| Tape/disk: | Home » Personal collection » Acorn ADFS disks » Electron_User_Group » EUG_16.ADF |
| Filename: | LETTERS/LETT4A |
| Read OK: | ✔ |
| File size: | 0B5F bytes |
| Load address: | 5A204556 |
| Exec address: | 544E0D31 |
File contents
Christian Weber Dear Gus, ............................................. Your draw program seemed quite a good job, I'm going to try to convert it to MODE3 screens and include icons ect. as you suggested. I don't think that many changes to the program are really needed and those I may make will gobble up too much memory in MODE0! I'm too use to all that memory available on my PC and my programming has become sloppy! ............................................. The EUG title screen. I don't know why you thought the old title screen was boring, I think that the new screen per issue will make EUG look irregular. Imagine electron user having its title in a different font each issue. It would look messy and make it look less professional. The same title screen per issue gives familiarity with the magazine. By taking away this familiarity you immediately alienate readers from feeling comfortable with something they're use to. It's all psycological. Having a go at the PC: Slow loading new PCs? Have you seen the new pentium 90Mhz machine running? That's what I call real speed! You know where I stand with the PC and I cannot understand why people think they are a waste of time. As for the length of time it takes to load software where did you hear this? Most high street shops were impressed by the speed of the new 486DX4 and the bench marks for the pentiums. It wasn't the PC that made Comodore go bust, it was the console industry. The PC was just the final nail in the coffin. The letters page: Now I may have mentioned to Will in the past about the letters page, My letter in issue 14 was one such instance. But I felt that the majority of letters were just space filling. Please could you edit out the 'Here is my cheque for `xx.xx" form the letters? I know that there are a lot of people who wish to meet other Elk users but is it really necessary in the letters section? I'm sorry but I don't want to read letters telling me who they are married to and how many children they've got. ................................................ ....... I'm all for making friends via EUG but not in the letters page. There's an age gap...: The old EUG appealed to all age groups and there was no age distinction within the articles. Now looking at EUG there is a definate age gap occuring. OK so most of the members I assume are 35+. But how would you feel as editor if I started sending you articles about 'chart' music (which is about as likely as me eating my socks)? This would no doubt not be looked at by the older members and many would probably complain. It is also irrelevant to the elk and computers in general. In the old EUG I would read every article although I may not understand them fully I wanted to digest the information they contained. I found myself scanning through the last two issues of EUG.
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I don't | 00000100 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 0d 74 68 61 74 20 6d 61 6e 79 |think .that many| 00000110 20 63 68 61 6e 67 65 73 20 74 6f 20 74 68 65 20 | changes to the | 00000120 70 72 6f 67 72 61 6d 20 61 72 65 20 72 65 61 6c |program are real| 00000130 6c 79 20 6e 65 65 64 65 64 20 61 6e 64 20 74 68 |ly needed and th| 00000140 6f 73 65 20 49 20 6d 61 79 20 6d 61 6b 65 20 0d |ose I may make .| 00000150 77 69 6c 6c 20 67 6f 62 62 6c 65 20 75 70 20 74 |will gobble up t| 00000160 6f 6f 20 6d 75 63 68 20 6d 65 6d 6f 72 79 20 69 |oo much memory i| 00000170 6e 20 4d 4f 44 45 30 21 20 49 27 6d 20 74 6f 6f |n MODE0! I'm too| 00000180 20 75 73 65 20 74 6f 20 61 6c 6c 20 74 68 61 74 | use to all that| 00000190 20 6d 65 6d 6f 72 79 20 0d 61 76 61 69 6c 61 62 | memory .availab| 000001a0 6c 65 20 6f 6e 20 6d 79 20 50 43 20 61 6e 64 20 |le on my PC and | 000001b0 6d 79 20 70 72 6f 67 72 61 6d 6d 69 6e 67 20 68 |my programming h| 000001c0 61 73 20 62 65 63 6f 6d 65 20 73 6c 6f 70 70 79 |as become sloppy| 000001d0 21 0d 0d 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e |!...............| 000001e0 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e |................| * 00000200 0d 0d 54 68 65 20 45 55 47 20 74 69 74 6c 65 20 |..The EUG title | 00000210 73 63 72 65 65 6e 2e 0d 0d 49 20 64 6f 6e 27 74 |screen...I don't| 00000220 20 6b 6e 6f 77 20 77 68 79 20 79 6f 75 20 74 68 | know why you th| 00000230 6f 75 67 68 74 20 74 68 65 20 6f 6c 64 20 74 69 |ought the old ti| 00000240 74 6c 65 20 73 63 72 65 65 6e 20 77 61 73 20 62 |tle screen was b| 00000250 6f 72 69 6e 67 2c 20 49 20 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 0d |oring, I think .| 00000260 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 65 20 6e 65 77 20 73 63 72 |that the new scr| 00000270 65 65 6e 20 70 65 72 20 69 73 73 75 65 20 77 69 |een per issue wi| 00000280 6c 6c 20 6d 61 6b 65 20 45 55 47 20 6c 6f 6f 6b |ll make EUG look| 00000290 20 69 72 72 65 67 75 6c 61 72 2e 20 49 6d 61 67 | irregular. Imag| 000002a0 69 6e 65 20 0d 65 6c 65 63 74 72 6f 6e 20 75 73 |ine .electron us| 000002b0 65 72 20 68 61 76 69 6e 67 20 69 74 73 20 74 69 |er having its ti| 000002c0 74 6c 65 20 69 6e 20 61 20 64 69 66 66 65 72 65 |tle in a differe| 000002d0 6e 74 20 66 6f 6e 74 20 65 61 63 68 20 69 73 73 |nt font each iss| 000002e0 75 65 2e 20 49 74 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 0d 6c 6f |ue. It would .lo| 000002f0 6f 6b 20 6d 65 73 73 79 20 61 6e 64 20 6d 61 6b |ok messy and mak| 00000300 65 20 69 74 20 6c 6f 6f 6b 20 6c 65 73 73 20 70 |e it look less p| 00000310 72 6f 66 65 73 73 69 6f 6e 61 6c 2e 20 54 68 65 |rofessional. The| 00000320 20 73 61 6d 65 20 74 69 74 6c 65 20 73 63 72 65 | same title scre| 00000330 65 6e 20 70 65 72 20 0d 69 73 73 75 65 20 67 69 |en per .issue gi| 00000340 76 65 73 20 66 61 6d 69 6c 69 61 72 69 74 79 20 |ves familiarity | 00000350 77 69 74 68 20 74 68 65 20 6d 61 67 61 7a 69 6e |with the magazin| 00000360 65 2e 20 42 79 20 74 61 6b 69 6e 67 20 61 77 61 |e. By taking awa| 00000370 79 20 74 68 69 73 20 0d 66 61 6d 69 6c 69 61 72 |y this .familiar| 00000380 69 74 79 20 79 6f 75 20 69 6d 6d 65 64 69 61 74 |ity you immediat| 00000390 65 6c 79 20 61 6c 69 65 6e 61 74 65 20 72 65 61 |ely alienate rea| 000003a0 64 65 72 73 20 66 72 6f 6d 20 66 65 65 6c 69 6e |ders from feelin| 000003b0 67 20 63 6f 6d 66 6f 72 74 61 62 6c 65 20 0d 77 |g comfortable .w| 000003c0 69 74 68 20 73 6f 6d 65 74 68 69 6e 67 20 74 68 |ith something th| 000003d0 65 79 27 72 65 20 75 73 65 20 74 6f 2e 20 49 74 |ey're use to. It| 000003e0 27 73 20 61 6c 6c 20 70 73 79 63 6f 6c 6f 67 69 |'s all psycologi| 000003f0 63 61 6c 2e 0d 0d 48 61 76 69 6e 67 20 61 20 67 |cal...Having a g| 00000400 6f 20 61 74 20 74 68 65 20 50 43 3a 0d 0d 53 6c |o at the PC:..Sl| 00000410 6f 77 20 6c 6f 61 64 69 6e 67 20 6e 65 77 20 50 |ow loading new P| 00000420 43 73 3f 20 48 61 76 65 20 79 6f 75 20 73 65 65 |Cs? Have you see| 00000430 6e 20 74 68 65 20 6e 65 77 20 70 65 6e 74 69 75 |n the new pentiu| 00000440 6d 20 39 30 4d 68 7a 20 6d 61 63 68 69 6e 65 20 |m 90Mhz machine | 00000450 0d 72 75 6e 6e 69 6e 67 3f 20 54 68 61 74 27 73 |.running? That's| 00000460 20 77 68 61 74 20 49 20 63 61 6c 6c 20 72 65 61 | what I call rea| 00000470 6c 20 73 70 65 65 64 21 20 59 6f 75 20 6b 6e 6f |l speed! You kno| 00000480 77 20 77 68 65 72 65 20 49 20 73 74 61 6e 64 20 |w where I stand | 00000490 77 69 74 68 20 74 68 65 20 0d 50 43 20 61 6e 64 |with the .PC and| 000004a0 20 49 20 63 61 6e 6e 6f 74 20 75 6e 64 65 72 73 | I cannot unders| 000004b0 74 61 6e 64 20 77 68 79 20 70 65 6f 70 6c 65 20 |tand why people | 000004c0 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 74 68 65 79 20 61 72 65 20 61 |think they are a| 000004d0 20 77 61 73 74 65 20 6f 66 20 74 69 6d 65 2e 20 | waste of time. | 000004e0 41 73 20 0d 66 6f 72 20 74 68 65 20 6c 65 6e 67 |As .for the leng| 000004f0 74 68 20 6f 66 20 74 69 6d 65 20 69 74 20 74 61 |th of time it ta| 00000500 6b 65 73 20 74 6f 20 6c 6f 61 64 20 73 6f 66 74 |kes to load soft| 00000510 77 61 72 65 20 77 68 65 72 65 20 64 69 64 20 79 |ware where did y| 00000520 6f 75 20 68 65 61 72 20 74 68 69 73 3f 20 0d 4d |ou hear this? .M| 00000530 6f 73 74 20 68 69 67 68 20 73 74 72 65 65 74 20 |ost high street | 00000540 73 68 6f 70 73 20 77 65 72 65 20 69 6d 70 72 65 |shops were impre| 00000550 73 73 65 64 20 62 79 20 74 68 65 20 73 70 65 65 |ssed by the spee| 00000560 64 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 6e 65 77 20 34 38 36 |d of the new 486| 00000570 44 58 34 20 61 6e 64 20 0d 74 68 65 20 62 65 6e |DX4 and .the ben| 00000580 63 68 20 6d 61 72 6b 73 20 66 6f 72 20 74 68 65 |ch marks for the| 00000590 20 70 65 6e 74 69 75 6d 73 2e 20 49 74 20 77 61 | pentiums. It wa| 000005a0 73 6e 27 74 20 74 68 65 20 50 43 20 74 68 61 74 |sn't the PC that| 000005b0 20 6d 61 64 65 20 43 6f 6d 6f 64 6f 72 65 20 67 | made Comodore g| 000005c0 6f 20 0d 62 75 73 74 2c 20 69 74 20 77 61 73 20 |o .bust, it was | 000005d0 74 68 65 20 63 6f 6e 73 6f 6c 65 20 69 6e 64 75 |the console indu| 000005e0 73 74 72 79 2e 20 54 68 65 20 50 43 20 77 61 73 |stry. The PC was| 000005f0 20 6a 75 73 74 20 74 68 65 20 66 69 6e 61 6c 20 | just the final | 00000600 6e 61 69 6c 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 0d 63 6f 66 |nail in the .cof| 00000610 66 69 6e 2e 0d 0d 54 68 65 20 6c 65 74 74 65 72 |fin...The letter| 00000620 73 20 70 61 67 65 3a 0d 0d 4e 6f 77 20 49 20 6d |s page:..Now I m| 00000630 61 79 20 68 61 76 65 20 6d 65 6e 74 69 6f 6e 65 |ay have mentione| 00000640 64 20 74 6f 20 57 69 6c 6c 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 |d to Will in the| 00000650 20 70 61 73 74 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 74 68 65 20 | past about the | 00000660 6c 65 74 74 65 72 73 20 70 61 67 65 2c 20 4d 79 |letters page, My| 00000670 20 0d 6c 65 74 74 65 72 20 69 6e 20 69 73 73 75 | .letter in issu| 00000680 65 20 31 34 20 77 61 73 20 6f 6e 65 20 73 75 63 |e 14 was one suc| 00000690 68 20 69 6e 73 74 61 6e 63 65 2e 20 42 75 74 20 |h instance. But | 000006a0 49 20 66 65 6c 74 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 65 20 |I felt that the | 000006b0 6d 61 6a 6f 72 69 74 79 20 6f 66 20 0d 6c 65 74 |majority of .let| 000006c0 74 65 72 73 20 77 65 72 65 20 6a 75 73 74 20 73 |ters were just s| 000006d0 70 61 63 65 20 66 69 6c 6c 69 6e 67 2e 20 50 6c |pace filling. Pl| 000006e0 65 61 73 65 20 63 6f 75 6c 64 20 79 6f 75 20 65 |ease could you e| 000006f0 64 69 74 20 6f 75 74 20 74 68 65 20 27 48 65 72 |dit out the 'Her| 00000700 65 20 69 73 20 0d 6d 79 20 63 68 65 71 75 65 20 |e is .my cheque | 00000710 66 6f 72 20 60 78 78 2e 78 78 22 20 66 6f 72 6d |for `xx.xx" form| 00000720 20 74 68 65 20 6c 65 74 74 65 72 73 3f 0d 0d 49 | the letters?..I| 00000730 20 6b 6e 6f 77 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 65 72 65 | know that there| 00000740 20 61 72 65 20 61 20 6c 6f 74 20 6f 66 20 70 65 | are a lot of pe| 00000750 6f 70 6c 65 20 77 68 6f 20 77 69 73 68 20 74 6f |ople who wish to| 00000760 20 6d 65 65 74 20 6f 74 68 65 72 20 45 6c 6b 20 | meet other Elk | 00000770 75 73 65 72 73 20 0d 62 75 74 20 69 73 20 69 74 |users .but is it| 00000780 20 72 65 61 6c 6c 79 20 6e 65 63 65 73 73 61 72 | really necessar| 00000790 79 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 6c 65 74 74 65 72 73 |y in the letters| 000007a0 20 73 65 63 74 69 6f 6e 3f 20 49 27 6d 20 73 6f | section? I'm so| 000007b0 72 72 79 20 62 75 74 20 49 20 64 6f 6e 27 74 20 |rry but I don't | 000007c0 0d 77 61 6e 74 20 74 6f 20 72 65 61 64 20 6c 65 |.want to read le| 000007d0 74 74 65 72 73 20 74 65 6c 6c 69 6e 67 20 6d 65 |tters telling me| 000007e0 20 77 68 6f 20 74 68 65 79 20 61 72 65 20 6d 61 | who they are ma| 000007f0 72 72 69 65 64 20 74 6f 20 61 6e 64 20 68 6f 77 |rried to and how| 00000800 20 6d 61 6e 79 20 0d 63 68 69 6c 64 72 65 6e 20 | many .children | 00000810 74 68 65 79 27 76 65 20 67 6f 74 2e 20 2e 2e 2e |they've got. ...| 00000820 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e |................| * 00000840 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 0d 2e 2e |................| 00000850 2e 2e 2e 2e 2e 20 49 27 6d 20 61 6c 6c 20 66 6f |..... I'm all fo| 00000860 72 20 6d 61 6b 69 6e 67 20 66 72 69 65 6e 64 73 |r making friends| 00000870 20 76 69 61 20 45 55 47 20 62 75 74 20 6e 6f 74 | via EUG but not| 00000880 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 6c 65 74 74 65 72 73 20 | in the letters | 00000890 70 61 67 65 2e 0d 0d 54 68 65 72 65 27 73 20 61 |page...There's a| 000008a0 6e 20 61 67 65 20 67 61 70 2e 2e 2e 3a 0d 0d 54 |n age gap...:..T| 000008b0 68 65 20 6f 6c 64 20 45 55 47 20 61 70 70 65 61 |he old EUG appea| 000008c0 6c 65 64 20 74 6f 20 61 6c 6c 20 61 67 65 20 67 |led to all age g| 000008d0 72 6f 75 70 73 20 61 6e 64 20 74 68 65 72 65 20 |roups and there | 000008e0 77 61 73 20 6e 6f 20 61 67 65 20 64 69 73 74 69 |was no age disti| 000008f0 6e 63 74 69 6f 6e 20 0d 77 69 74 68 69 6e 20 74 |nction .within t| 00000900 68 65 20 61 72 74 69 63 6c 65 73 2e 0d 0d 4e 6f |he articles...No| 00000910 77 20 6c 6f 6f 6b 69 6e 67 20 61 74 20 45 55 47 |w looking at EUG| 00000920 20 74 68 65 72 65 20 69 73 20 61 20 64 65 66 69 | there is a defi| 00000930 6e 61 74 65 20 61 67 65 20 67 61 70 20 6f 63 63 |nate age gap occ| 00000940 75 72 69 6e 67 2e 20 4f 4b 20 73 6f 20 6d 6f 73 |uring. OK so mos| 00000950 74 20 6f 66 20 0d 74 68 65 20 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 |t of .the member| 00000960 73 20 49 20 61 73 73 75 6d 65 20 61 72 65 20 33 |s I assume are 3| 00000970 35 2b 2e 20 42 75 74 20 68 6f 77 20 77 6f 75 6c |5+. But how woul| 00000980 64 20 79 6f 75 20 66 65 65 6c 20 61 73 20 65 64 |d you feel as ed| 00000990 69 74 6f 72 20 69 66 20 49 20 0d 73 74 61 72 74 |itor if I .start| 000009a0 65 64 20 73 65 6e 64 69 6e 67 20 79 6f 75 20 61 |ed sending you a| 000009b0 72 74 69 63 6c 65 73 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 27 63 |rticles about 'c| 000009c0 68 61 72 74 27 20 6d 75 73 69 63 20 28 77 68 69 |hart' music (whi| 000009d0 63 68 20 69 73 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 61 73 20 0d |ch is about as .| 000009e0 6c 69 6b 65 6c 79 20 61 73 20 6d 65 20 65 61 74 |likely as me eat| 000009f0 69 6e 67 20 6d 79 20 73 6f 63 6b 73 29 3f 20 54 |ing my socks)? T| 00000a00 68 69 73 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 6e 6f 20 64 6f 75 |his would no dou| 00000a10 62 74 20 6e 6f 74 20 62 65 20 6c 6f 6f 6b 65 64 |bt not be looked| 00000a20 20 61 74 20 62 79 20 0d 74 68 65 20 6f 6c 64 65 | at by .the olde| 00000a30 72 20 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 73 20 61 6e 64 20 6d 61 |r members and ma| 00000a40 6e 79 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 70 72 6f 62 61 62 6c |ny would probabl| 00000a50 79 20 63 6f 6d 70 6c 61 69 6e 2e 20 49 74 20 69 |y complain. It i| 00000a60 73 20 61 6c 73 6f 20 69 72 72 65 6c 65 76 61 6e |s also irrelevan| 00000a70 74 20 0d 74 6f 20 74 68 65 20 65 6c 6b 20 61 6e |t .to the elk an| 00000a80 64 20 63 6f 6d 70 75 74 65 72 73 20 69 6e 20 67 |d computers in g| 00000a90 65 6e 65 72 61 6c 2e 0d 0d 49 6e 20 74 68 65 20 |eneral...In the | 00000aa0 6f 6c 64 20 45 55 47 20 49 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 |old EUG I would | 00000ab0 72 65 61 64 20 65 76 65 72 79 20 61 72 74 69 63 |read every artic| 00000ac0 6c 65 20 61 6c 74 68 6f 75 67 68 20 49 20 6d 61 |le although I ma| 00000ad0 79 20 6e 6f 74 20 75 6e 64 65 72 73 74 61 6e 64 |y not understand| 00000ae0 20 0d 74 68 65 6d 20 66 75 6c 6c 79 20 49 20 77 | .them fully I w| 00000af0 61 6e 74 65 64 20 74 6f 20 64 69 67 65 73 74 20 |anted to digest | 00000b00 74 68 65 20 69 6e 66 6f 72 6d 61 74 69 6f 6e 20 |the information | 00000b10 74 68 65 79 20 63 6f 6e 74 61 69 6e 65 64 2e 20 |they contained. | 00000b20 49 20 66 6f 75 6e 64 20 0d 6d 79 73 65 6c 66 20 |I found .myself | 00000b30 73 63 61 6e 6e 69 6e 67 20 74 68 72 6f 75 67 68 |scanning through| 00000b40 20 74 68 65 20 6c 61 73 74 20 74 77 6f 20 69 73 | the last two is| 00000b50 73 75 65 73 20 6f 66 20 45 55 47 2e 0d 0d 0d |sues of EUG....| 00000b5f
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