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L/+STILLR
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Filename: | L/+STILLR |
Read OK: | ✔ |
File size: | 1928 bytes |
Load address: | 4C204556 |
Exec address: | 54532B2E |
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STILL RUNNING?! PHEW! After seeing your email address on The BBC Lives web site, what can I say apart from "EUG is still RUNNING?!" I used to be a regular contributor to the hallowed paper-based magazines (and some of the early disk ones) and it was only because the issues suddenly stopped arriving - and my further articles and letters were ignored - that I became con- vinced it must have closed down a long time ago. To reintroduce myself, my name is Christian Weber and because I used to enjoy both hacking into and completing games, I submitted articles to Will Watts for a column entitled ELK ENTERTAINMENT. Although I haven't touched my Elk for ooooh years now, on seeing your advertisement, my in- terest in all things Electron has suddenly returned. After all, without my Electron, I wouldn't be where I am today - programming computers for a living, curse it! - and I did secretly miss the EUG magazine every few months. It did seem though that the editors had to do everything apart from send the boys 'round to get each issue produced! And now EUG is monthly? Well, well. Regular consistency. One of the things that used to annoy me in the early days was when an issue was held back until a couple more articles had been submitted. Just how many members does EUG have now? Not that it really matters but Will would never tell me and I got the feeling that there were far less readers every issue shortly after it transferred to disk. Now the very important question. Do you make up subscription disks as .IMG files for use on one of the BBC emulators? I realise this could be a pain but I'm sure there are many people like myself whose Electrons are boxed away in an attic far away but are fans of emulation. I'd happily pay twelve quid a year to have the disk emailed as an .IMG or .SSD format, but I'm not too sure about receiving it on floppy. Let's just say that it would be incredibly awkward and I'd probably never look at the disks! Realistically, doing this would be far cheaper for EUG as a whole too. You'd only have to send one binary attachment on an email to a number of people and the actual splitting of the message to the readers would be done at the server. So you wouldn't have to worry about up- loading huge amounts of data each month. Ultimately, you could even put the new EUG on the 'net. Have it in a protected area on a web site so members can download code as an emulator format but have the text as HTML. Now that'd be neat! The reason this appeals to me is that I've been to a variety of sites on the 'net run by people writing games for the Spectrum 128k (i.e. DUNE 2) to be run via emulators. For many, the Spectrum is far from dead - it's living strong via emulation. Realistically I see this as being the way forward for the Elk too. Eventually the original hardware will die, although perhaps not for years given the build quality of earlier Electrons. But what'll happen when you can't buy 5.25" disks and single sided 3.5" ones? In fact, do they still make 5.25" disks? I've been toying with writing an article about BBC/Elk emulation for a couple of years but was unsure if somebody else had beaten me to it. I was incredibly excited to learn one of MAME's authors had made a start but his web page hasn't been updated for a few months now. Please fill me in on what's been happening with EUG over the past six years. Where do you feel it's going? What's a typical issue's worth of articles? What's your Mission Statement for EUG? Why? Well, I'm serious- ly considering writing articles for the mag again. Maybe on a broader topic like BBC/Elk emulation or maybe just articles here and there. I still own a HUGE amount of cheat information/maps for the Electron that I inherited when Impact Software became the 4th Dimension. I just asked them nicely if I could have any sheets they had lying around for free and they not only said yes but said I could publish them whereever I wanted with no problem. I considered creating a web site for all of them but I already run two and a third seemed a little overambitous. Perhaps in the future I could resurrect ELK ENTERTAINMENT in a cheat-sheet way and just omit all the moans about there being no Elk releases any more. Finally, just a pointer. Think about asking all the readers why and when they bought their Electron or BBC computer and what difference it made to their lives, if any. And make sure you nurture the good, reli- able writers (Hope you're listening, Mr Donnachaidh!) or you'll lose them. Is that complete genius Richard Dimond still part of EUG, eh? Christian Weber 433 Newmarket Road, CAMBRIDGE CB5 8JJ The Alien Saga Movie Page _ http://www.stomper.demon.co.uk The Official K-Nitrate Website _ http://listen.to/knitrate THE ELK ENTERTAINMENT section, to which Christian refers, disappeared from the EUG magazine around EUG #15, and originally contained walk- throughs and cheat modes for some of the most popular games. Although some more did appear between then and EUG #45 - when the adventure solutions and game review sections began to appear - professional releases were very much left alone, due in part to the policy of EUG not restricting itself to being about computers alone. It is most welcome to make its comeback although it will result in some disk shuffling to pre- vent SOME solutions being under one menu and OTHERS under ITS bracket. There are currently just over 100 readers of the EUG magazine and, with complimentary disks enclosed with software, book and magazine orders, each issue is read by approximately 110 people! As yet, there are no plans to emulate the disks for use on a PC. When Bryan McPhail's PC emulator is completed, the situation may change. The only 5.25" disks available locally are HD disks but EUG has sufficient stocks to see us well into 2002. 3.5" MD disks are still widely available. The Mission Statement of EUG is simply to cater for the BBC machines and impress readers whenever it can do so for as long as it can do so. Members keep resubscribing so it must be doing something right. As usual, all articles will be well received - whether they're yours or along the lines Christian described. (The) Dave
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It did see| 000003d0 6d 20 74 68 6f 75 67 68 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 |m though that th| 000003e0 65 20 65 64 69 74 6f 72 73 20 68 61 64 20 74 6f |e editors had to| 000003f0 20 64 6f 20 65 76 65 72 79 74 68 69 6e 67 20 61 | do everything a| 00000400 70 61 72 74 0d 66 72 6f 6d 20 73 65 6e 64 20 74 |part.from send t| 00000410 68 65 20 62 6f 79 73 20 27 72 6f 75 6e 64 20 74 |he boys 'round t| 00000420 6f 20 67 65 74 20 65 61 63 68 20 69 73 73 75 65 |o get each issue| 00000430 20 70 72 6f 64 75 63 65 64 21 0d 20 20 20 41 6e | produced!. An| 00000440 64 20 6e 6f 77 20 45 55 47 20 69 73 20 6d 6f 6e |d now EUG is mon| 00000450 74 68 6c 79 3f 20 57 65 6c 6c 2c 20 77 65 6c 6c |thly? Well, well| 00000460 2e 20 52 65 67 75 6c 61 72 20 63 6f 6e 73 69 73 |. Regular consis| 00000470 74 65 6e 63 79 2e 20 4f 6e 65 20 6f 66 20 74 68 |tency. 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Not t| 00000530 68 61 74 20 69 74 20 72 65 61 6c 6c 79 20 6d 61 |hat it really ma| 00000540 74 74 65 72 73 20 62 75 74 20 57 69 6c 6c 20 77 |tters but Will w| 00000550 6f 75 6c 64 20 0d 6e 65 76 65 72 20 74 65 6c 6c |ould .never tell| 00000560 20 6d 65 20 61 6e 64 20 49 20 67 6f 74 20 74 68 | me and I got th| 00000570 65 20 66 65 65 6c 69 6e 67 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 |e feeling that t| 00000580 68 65 72 65 20 77 65 72 65 20 66 61 72 20 6c 65 |here were far le| 00000590 73 73 20 72 65 61 64 65 72 73 0d 65 76 65 72 79 |ss readers.every| 000005a0 20 69 73 73 75 65 20 73 68 6f 72 74 6c 79 20 61 | issue shortly a| 000005b0 66 74 65 72 20 69 74 20 74 72 61 6e 73 66 65 72 |fter it transfer| 000005c0 72 65 64 20 74 6f 20 64 69 73 6b 2e 0d 20 20 20 |red to disk.. | 000005d0 4e 6f 77 20 74 68 65 20 76 65 72 79 20 69 6d 70 |Now the very imp| 000005e0 6f 72 74 61 6e 74 20 71 75 65 73 74 69 6f 6e 2e |ortant question.| 000005f0 20 44 6f 20 79 6f 75 20 6d 61 6b 65 20 75 70 20 | Do you make up | 00000600 73 75 62 73 63 72 69 70 74 69 6f 6e 20 64 69 73 |subscription dis| 00000610 6b 73 20 61 73 0d 2e 49 4d 47 20 66 69 6c 65 73 |ks as..IMG files| 00000620 20 66 6f 72 20 75 73 65 20 6f 6e 20 6f 6e 65 20 | for use on one | 00000630 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 42 42 43 20 65 6d 75 6c 61 |of the BBC emula| 00000640 74 6f 72 73 3f 20 49 20 72 65 61 6c 69 73 65 20 |tors? I realise | 00000650 74 68 69 73 20 63 6f 75 6c 64 20 62 65 0d 61 20 |this could be.a | 00000660 70 61 69 6e 20 62 75 74 20 49 27 6d 20 73 75 72 |pain but I'm sur| 00000670 65 20 74 68 65 72 65 20 61 72 65 20 6d 61 6e 79 |e there are many| 00000680 20 70 65 6f 70 6c 65 20 6c 69 6b 65 20 6d 79 73 | people like mys| 00000690 65 6c 66 20 77 68 6f 73 65 20 45 6c 65 63 74 72 |elf whose Electr| 000006a0 6f 6e 73 0d 61 72 65 20 62 6f 78 65 64 20 61 77 |ons.are boxed aw| 000006b0 61 79 20 69 6e 20 61 6e 20 61 74 74 69 63 20 66 |ay in an attic f| 000006c0 61 72 20 61 77 61 79 20 62 75 74 20 61 72 65 20 |ar away but are | 000006d0 66 61 6e 73 20 6f 66 20 65 6d 75 6c 61 74 69 6f |fans of emulatio| 000006e0 6e 2e 20 49 27 64 20 0d 68 61 70 70 69 6c 79 20 |n. I'd .happily | 000006f0 70 61 79 20 74 77 65 6c 76 65 20 71 75 69 64 20 |pay twelve quid | 00000700 61 20 79 65 61 72 20 74 6f 20 68 61 76 65 20 74 |a year to have t| 00000710 68 65 20 64 69 73 6b 20 65 6d 61 69 6c 65 64 20 |he disk emailed | 00000720 61 73 20 61 6e 20 2e 49 4d 47 20 6f 72 20 0d 2e |as an .IMG or ..| 00000730 53 53 44 20 66 6f 72 6d 61 74 2c 20 62 75 74 20 |SSD format, but | 00000740 49 27 6d 20 6e 6f 74 20 74 6f 6f 20 73 75 72 65 |I'm not too sure| 00000750 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 72 65 63 65 69 76 69 6e 67 | about receiving| 00000760 20 69 74 20 6f 6e 20 66 6c 6f 70 70 79 2e 20 4c | it on floppy. L| 00000770 65 74 27 73 20 0d 6a 75 73 74 20 73 61 79 20 74 |et's .just say t| 00000780 68 61 74 20 69 74 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 62 65 20 |hat it would be | 00000790 69 6e 63 72 65 64 69 62 6c 79 20 61 77 6b 77 61 |incredibly awkwa| 000007a0 72 64 20 61 6e 64 20 49 27 64 20 70 72 6f 62 61 |rd and I'd proba| 000007b0 62 6c 79 20 6e 65 76 65 72 20 6c 6f 6f 6b 0d 61 |bly never look.a| 000007c0 74 20 74 68 65 20 64 69 73 6b 73 21 0d 20 20 20 |t the disks!. | 000007d0 52 65 61 6c 69 73 74 69 63 61 6c 6c 79 2c 20 64 |Realistically, d| 000007e0 6f 69 6e 67 20 74 68 69 73 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 |oing this would | 000007f0 62 65 20 66 61 72 20 63 68 65 61 70 65 72 20 66 |be far cheaper f| 00000800 6f 72 20 45 55 47 20 61 73 20 61 20 77 68 6f 6c |or EUG as a whol| 00000810 65 20 0d 74 6f 6f 2e 20 59 6f 75 27 64 20 6f 6e |e .too. You'd on| 00000820 6c 79 20 68 61 76 65 20 74 6f 20 73 65 6e 64 20 |ly have to send | 00000830 6f 6e 65 20 62 69 6e 61 72 79 20 61 74 74 61 63 |one binary attac| 00000840 68 6d 65 6e 74 20 6f 6e 20 61 6e 20 65 6d 61 69 |hment on an emai| 00000850 6c 20 74 6f 20 61 20 0d 6e 75 6d 62 65 72 20 6f |l to a .number o| 00000860 66 20 70 65 6f 70 6c 65 20 61 6e 64 20 74 68 65 |f people and the| 00000870 20 61 63 74 75 61 6c 20 73 70 6c 69 74 74 69 6e | actual splittin| 00000880 67 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 6d 65 73 73 61 67 65 |g of the message| 00000890 20 74 6f 20 74 68 65 20 72 65 61 64 65 72 73 0d | to the readers.| 000008a0 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 62 65 20 64 6f 6e 65 20 61 74 |would be done at| 000008b0 20 74 68 65 20 73 65 72 76 65 72 2e 20 53 6f 20 | the server. So | 000008c0 79 6f 75 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 6e 27 74 20 68 61 76 |you wouldn't hav| 000008d0 65 20 74 6f 20 77 6f 72 72 79 20 61 62 6f 75 74 |e to worry about| 000008e0 20 75 70 2d 0d 6c 6f 61 64 69 6e 67 20 68 75 67 | up-.loading hug| 000008f0 65 20 61 6d 6f 75 6e 74 73 20 6f 66 20 64 61 74 |e amounts of dat| 00000900 61 20 65 61 63 68 20 6d 6f 6e 74 68 2e 0d 20 20 |a each month.. | 00000910 20 55 6c 74 69 6d 61 74 65 6c 79 2c 20 79 6f 75 | Ultimately, you| 00000920 20 63 6f 75 6c 64 20 65 76 65 6e 20 70 75 74 20 | could even put | 00000930 74 68 65 20 6e 65 77 20 45 55 47 20 6f 6e 20 74 |the new EUG on t| 00000940 68 65 20 27 6e 65 74 2e 20 48 61 76 65 20 69 74 |he 'net. Have it| 00000950 20 69 6e 20 61 0d 70 72 6f 74 65 63 74 65 64 20 | in a.protected | 00000960 61 72 65 61 20 6f 6e 20 61 20 77 65 62 20 73 69 |area on a web si| 00000970 74 65 20 73 6f 20 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 73 20 63 61 |te so members ca| 00000980 6e 20 64 6f 77 6e 6c 6f 61 64 20 63 6f 64 65 20 |n download code | 00000990 61 73 20 61 6e 20 65 6d 75 6c 61 74 6f 72 0d 66 |as an emulator.f| 000009a0 6f 72 6d 61 74 20 62 75 74 20 68 61 76 65 20 74 |ormat but have t| 000009b0 68 65 20 74 65 78 74 20 61 73 20 48 54 4d 4c 2e |he text as HTML.| 000009c0 20 4e 6f 77 20 74 68 61 74 27 64 20 62 65 20 6e | Now that'd be n| 000009d0 65 61 74 21 0d 20 20 20 54 68 65 20 72 65 61 73 |eat!. The reas| 000009e0 6f 6e 20 74 68 69 73 20 61 70 70 65 61 6c 73 20 |on this appeals | 000009f0 74 6f 20 6d 65 20 69 73 20 74 68 61 74 20 49 27 |to me is that I'| 00000a00 76 65 20 62 65 65 6e 20 74 6f 20 61 20 76 61 72 |ve been to a var| 00000a10 69 65 74 79 20 6f 66 20 73 69 74 65 73 0d 6f 6e |iety of sites.on| 00000a20 20 74 68 65 20 27 6e 65 74 20 72 75 6e 20 62 79 | the 'net run by| 00000a30 20 70 65 6f 70 6c 65 20 77 72 69 74 69 6e 67 20 | people writing | 00000a40 67 61 6d 65 73 20 66 6f 72 20 74 68 65 20 53 70 |games for the Sp| 00000a50 65 63 74 72 75 6d 20 31 32 38 6b 20 28 69 2e 65 |ectrum 128k (i.e| 00000a60 2e 20 44 55 4e 45 0d 32 29 20 74 6f 20 62 65 20 |. DUNE.2) to be | 00000a70 72 75 6e 20 76 69 61 20 65 6d 75 6c 61 74 6f 72 |run via emulator| 00000a80 73 2e 20 46 6f 72 20 6d 61 6e 79 2c 20 74 68 65 |s. For many, the| 00000a90 20 53 70 65 63 74 72 75 6d 20 69 73 20 66 61 72 | Spectrum is far| 00000aa0 20 66 72 6f 6d 20 64 65 61 64 20 2d 20 0d 69 74 | from dead - .it| 00000ab0 27 73 20 6c 69 76 69 6e 67 20 73 74 72 6f 6e 67 |'s living strong| 00000ac0 20 76 69 61 20 65 6d 75 6c 61 74 69 6f 6e 2e 20 | via emulation. | 00000ad0 52 65 61 6c 69 73 74 69 63 61 6c 6c 79 20 49 20 |Realistically I | 00000ae0 73 65 65 20 74 68 69 73 20 61 73 20 62 65 69 6e |see this as bein| 00000af0 67 20 74 68 65 0d 77 61 79 20 66 6f 72 77 61 72 |g the.way forwar| 00000b00 64 20 66 6f 72 20 74 68 65 20 45 6c 6b 20 74 6f |d for the Elk to| 00000b10 6f 2e 20 45 76 65 6e 74 75 61 6c 6c 79 20 74 68 |o. Eventually th| 00000b20 65 20 6f 72 69 67 69 6e 61 6c 20 68 61 72 64 77 |e original hardw| 00000b30 61 72 65 20 77 69 6c 6c 20 64 69 65 2c 0d 61 6c |are will die,.al| 00000b40 74 68 6f 75 67 68 20 70 65 72 68 61 70 73 20 6e |though perhaps n| 00000b50 6f 74 20 66 6f 72 20 79 65 61 72 73 20 67 69 76 |ot for years giv| 00000b60 65 6e 20 74 68 65 20 62 75 69 6c 64 20 71 75 61 |en the build qua| 00000b70 6c 69 74 79 20 6f 66 20 65 61 72 6c 69 65 72 20 |lity of earlier | 00000b80 0d 45 6c 65 63 74 72 6f 6e 73 2e 20 42 75 74 20 |.Electrons. But | 00000b90 77 68 61 74 27 6c 6c 20 68 61 70 70 65 6e 20 77 |what'll happen w| 00000ba0 68 65 6e 20 79 6f 75 20 63 61 6e 27 74 20 62 75 |hen you can't bu| 00000bb0 79 20 35 2e 32 35 22 20 64 69 73 6b 73 20 61 6e |y 5.25" disks an| 00000bc0 64 20 73 69 6e 67 6c 65 0d 73 69 64 65 64 20 33 |d single.sided 3| 00000bd0 2e 35 22 20 6f 6e 65 73 3f 20 49 6e 20 66 61 63 |.5" ones? 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I.was incredi| 00000ca0 62 6c 79 20 65 78 63 69 74 65 64 20 74 6f 20 6c |bly excited to l| 00000cb0 65 61 72 6e 20 6f 6e 65 20 6f 66 20 4d 41 4d 45 |earn one of MAME| 00000cc0 27 73 20 61 75 74 68 6f 72 73 20 68 61 64 20 6d |'s authors had m| 00000cd0 61 64 65 20 61 20 73 74 61 72 74 0d 62 75 74 20 |ade a start.but | 00000ce0 68 69 73 20 77 65 62 20 70 61 67 65 20 68 61 73 |his web page has| 00000cf0 6e 27 74 20 62 65 65 6e 20 75 70 64 61 74 65 64 |n't been updated| 00000d00 20 66 6f 72 20 61 20 66 65 77 20 6d 6f 6e 74 68 | for a few month| 00000d10 73 20 6e 6f 77 2e 0d 20 20 20 50 6c 65 61 73 65 |s now.. Please| 00000d20 20 66 69 6c 6c 20 6d 65 20 69 6e 20 6f 6e 20 77 | fill me in on w| 00000d30 68 61 74 27 73 20 62 65 65 6e 20 68 61 70 70 65 |hat's been happe| 00000d40 6e 69 6e 67 20 77 69 74 68 20 45 55 47 20 6f 76 |ning with EUG ov| 00000d50 65 72 20 74 68 65 20 70 61 73 74 20 73 69 78 0d |er the past six.| 00000d60 79 65 61 72 73 2e 20 57 68 65 72 65 20 64 6f 20 |years. 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