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L/+CRANE1

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Filename: L/+CRANE1
Read OK:
File size: 06AA bytes
Load address: D0D4556
Exec address: 45545445
File contents
Dear Gus,
 Yet another plea of help.Let me just say before I ramble on that most of
my previous problems have now been solved.I subscribe to 8BS as well as
EUG and I usually bother those members as well with my troubles.Someone in
1 or other of these excellent publications generally pops up with the
answer.However in the main they seem to reply direct to me so some other
members may miss out on the info.If anyone can remember what I've asked
for upto press and could compile a short list to jog my memory,even if
it's just a list of EUG's,where seen;then I could perhaps write some brief
articles for the mag.Just a thought.

 Right then.Can anyone give me an address for PD software author JJA VAN
GINK or the company he works (worked ?) for DER HANSIE DEVELOPMENTS ?

 I have a disc formatter program made by them.In the listing it says
"Please feel free to suggest other formats for inclusion in the
program.Send us a formatted disc and we'll write the format into the
program."However no address is given,so I don't know where to write to.The
program copyright date is (C) 1990.
 
 Alternatively does anyone know of a formatter application,for use in the
Desktop of my A3010,which will allow me to format ADFS (S) and (M)
formats ? I can format (L) sometimes called 640K or 640K(L) with the
normal facilities provided with my A3010 and the program mentioned above
also does (L).I have 1 or 2 ADFS utility discs from Elk,Beeb etc,but it
appears to be impossible to format within the BBC emulator.

 Perhaps if I send a copy of the PD Desktop Formatter program to someone
handy at programming,they could aadapt it for me ?

John Crane 34 St Andrews Walk Harrogate North Yorks HG2 7RL (01423) 885049
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00000010  61 6e 6f 74 68 65 72 20  70 6c 65 61 20 6f 66 20  |another plea of |
00000020  68 65 6c 70 2e 4c 65 74  20 6d 65 20 6a 75 73 74  |help.Let me just|
00000030  20 73 61 79 20 62 65 66  6f 72 65 20 49 20 72 61  | say before I ra|
00000040  6d 62 6c 65 20 6f 6e 20  74 68 61 74 20 6d 6f 73  |mble on that mos|
00000050  74 20 6f 66 0d 6d 79 20  70 72 65 76 69 6f 75 73  |t of.my previous|
00000060  20 70 72 6f 62 6c 65 6d  73 20 68 61 76 65 20 6e  | problems have n|
00000070  6f 77 20 62 65 65 6e 20  73 6f 6c 76 65 64 2e 49  |ow been solved.I|
00000080  20 73 75 62 73 63 72 69  62 65 20 74 6f 20 38 42  | subscribe to 8B|
00000090  53 20 61 73 20 77 65 6c  6c 20 61 73 0d 45 55 47  |S as well as.EUG|
000000a0  20 61 6e 64 20 49 20 75  73 75 61 6c 6c 79 20 62  | and I usually b|
000000b0  6f 74 68 65 72 20 74 68  6f 73 65 20 6d 65 6d 62  |other those memb|
000000c0  65 72 73 20 61 73 20 77  65 6c 6c 20 77 69 74 68  |ers as well with|
000000d0  20 6d 79 20 74 72 6f 75  62 6c 65 73 2e 53 6f 6d  | my troubles.Som|
000000e0  65 6f 6e 65 20 69 6e 0d  31 20 6f 72 20 6f 74 68  |eone in.1 or oth|
000000f0  65 72 20 6f 66 20 74 68  65 73 65 20 65 78 63 65  |er of these exce|
00000100  6c 6c 65 6e 74 20 70 75  62 6c 69 63 61 74 69 6f  |llent publicatio|
00000110  6e 73 20 67 65 6e 65 72  61 6c 6c 79 20 70 6f 70  |ns generally pop|
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00000140  74 68 65 20 6d 61 69 6e  20 74 68 65 79 20 73 65  |the main they se|
00000150  65 6d 20 74 6f 20 72 65  70 6c 79 20 64 69 72 65  |em to reply dire|
00000160  63 74 20 74 6f 20 6d 65  20 73 6f 20 73 6f 6d 65  |ct to me so some|
00000170  20 6f 74 68 65 72 0d 6d  65 6d 62 65 72 73 20 6d  | other.members m|
00000180  61 79 20 6d 69 73 73 20  6f 75 74 20 6f 6e 20 74  |ay miss out on t|
00000190  68 65 20 69 6e 66 6f 2e  49 66 20 61 6e 79 6f 6e  |he info.If anyon|
000001a0  65 20 63 61 6e 20 72 65  6d 65 6d 62 65 72 20 77  |e can remember w|
000001b0  68 61 74 20 49 27 76 65  20 61 73 6b 65 64 0d 66  |hat I've asked.f|
000001c0  6f 72 20 75 70 74 6f 20  70 72 65 73 73 20 61 6e  |or upto press an|
000001d0  64 20 63 6f 75 6c 64 20  63 6f 6d 70 69 6c 65 20  |d could compile |
000001e0  61 20 73 68 6f 72 74 20  6c 69 73 74 20 74 6f 20  |a short list to |
000001f0  6a 6f 67 20 6d 79 20 6d  65 6d 6f 72 79 2c 65 76  |jog my memory,ev|
00000200  65 6e 20 69 66 0d 69 74  27 73 20 6a 75 73 74 20  |en if.it's just |
00000210  61 20 6c 69 73 74 20 6f  66 20 45 55 47 27 73 2c  |a list of EUG's,|
00000220  77 68 65 72 65 20 73 65  65 6e 3b 74 68 65 6e 20  |where seen;then |
00000230  49 20 63 6f 75 6c 64 20  70 65 72 68 61 70 73 20  |I could perhaps |
00000240  77 72 69 74 65 20 73 6f  6d 65 20 62 72 69 65 66  |write some brief|
00000250  0d 61 72 74 69 63 6c 65  73 20 66 6f 72 20 74 68  |.articles for th|
00000260  65 20 6d 61 67 2e 4a 75  73 74 20 61 20 74 68 6f  |e mag.Just a tho|
00000270  75 67 68 74 2e 0d 0d 20  52 69 67 68 74 20 74 68  |ught... Right th|
00000280  65 6e 2e 43 61 6e 20 61  6e 79 6f 6e 65 20 67 69  |en.Can anyone gi|
00000290  76 65 20 6d 65 20 61 6e  20 61 64 64 72 65 73 73  |ve me an address|
000002a0  20 66 6f 72 20 50 44 20  73 6f 66 74 77 61 72 65  | for PD software|
000002b0  20 61 75 74 68 6f 72 20  4a 4a 41 20 56 41 4e 0d  | author JJA VAN.|
000002c0  47 49 4e 4b 20 6f 72 20  74 68 65 20 63 6f 6d 70  |GINK or the comp|
000002d0  61 6e 79 20 68 65 20 77  6f 72 6b 73 20 28 77 6f  |any he works (wo|
000002e0  72 6b 65 64 20 3f 29 20  66 6f 72 20 44 45 52 20  |rked ?) for DER |
000002f0  48 41 4e 53 49 45 20 44  45 56 45 4c 4f 50 4d 45  |HANSIE DEVELOPME|
00000300  4e 54 53 20 3f 0d 0d 20  49 20 68 61 76 65 20 61  |NTS ?.. I have a|
00000310  20 64 69 73 63 20 66 6f  72 6d 61 74 74 65 72 20  | disc formatter |
00000320  70 72 6f 67 72 61 6d 20  6d 61 64 65 20 62 79 20  |program made by |
00000330  74 68 65 6d 2e 49 6e 20  74 68 65 20 6c 69 73 74  |them.In the list|
00000340  69 6e 67 20 69 74 20 73  61 79 73 0d 22 50 6c 65  |ing it says."Ple|
00000350  61 73 65 20 66 65 65 6c  20 66 72 65 65 20 74 6f  |ase feel free to|
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00000380  73 69 6f 6e 20 69 6e 20  74 68 65 0d 70 72 6f 67  |sion in the.prog|
00000390  72 61 6d 2e 53 65 6e 64  20 75 73 20 61 20 66 6f  |ram.Send us a fo|
000003a0  72 6d 61 74 74 65 64 20  64 69 73 63 20 61 6e 64  |rmatted disc and|
000003b0  20 77 65 27 6c 6c 20 77  72 69 74 65 20 74 68 65  | we'll write the|
000003c0  20 66 6f 72 6d 61 74 20  69 6e 74 6f 20 74 68 65  | format into the|
000003d0  0d 70 72 6f 67 72 61 6d  2e 22 48 6f 77 65 76 65  |.program."Howeve|
000003e0  72 20 6e 6f 20 61 64 64  72 65 73 73 20 69 73 20  |r no address is |
000003f0  67 69 76 65 6e 2c 73 6f  20 49 20 64 6f 6e 27 74  |given,so I don't|
00000400  20 6b 6e 6f 77 20 77 68  65 72 65 20 74 6f 20 77  | know where to w|
00000410  72 69 74 65 20 74 6f 2e  54 68 65 0d 70 72 6f 67  |rite to.The.prog|
00000420  72 61 6d 20 63 6f 70 79  72 69 67 68 74 20 64 61  |ram copyright da|
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00000450  20 64 6f 65 73 20 61 6e  79 6f 6e 65 20 6b 6e 6f  | does anyone kno|
00000460  77 20 6f 66 20 61 20 66  6f 72 6d 61 74 74 65 72  |w of a formatter|
00000470  20 61 70 70 6c 69 63 61  74 69 6f 6e 2c 66 6f 72  | application,for|
00000480  20 75 73 65 20 69 6e 20  74 68 65 0d 44 65 73 6b  | use in the.Desk|
00000490  74 6f 70 20 6f 66 20 6d  79 20 41 33 30 31 30 2c  |top of my A3010,|
000004a0  77 68 69 63 68 20 77 69  6c 6c 20 61 6c 6c 6f 77  |which will allow|
000004b0  20 6d 65 20 74 6f 20 66  6f 72 6d 61 74 20 41 44  | me to format AD|
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000004d0  6f 72 6d 61 74 73 20 3f  20 49 20 63 61 6e 20 66  |ormats ? I can f|
000004e0  6f 72 6d 61 74 20 28 4c  29 20 73 6f 6d 65 74 69  |ormat (L) someti|
000004f0  6d 65 73 20 63 61 6c 6c  65 64 20 36 34 30 4b 20  |mes called 640K |
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00000510  74 68 65 0d 6e 6f 72 6d  61 6c 20 66 61 63 69 6c  |the.normal facil|
00000520  69 74 69 65 73 20 70 72  6f 76 69 64 65 64 20 77  |ities provided w|
00000530  69 74 68 20 6d 79 20 41  33 30 31 30 20 61 6e 64  |ith my A3010 and|
00000540  20 74 68 65 20 70 72 6f  67 72 61 6d 20 6d 65 6e  | the program men|
00000550  74 69 6f 6e 65 64 20 61  62 6f 76 65 0d 61 6c 73  |tioned above.als|
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00000570  65 20 31 20 6f 72 20 32  20 41 44 46 53 20 75 74  |e 1 or 2 ADFS ut|
00000580  69 6c 69 74 79 20 64 69  73 63 73 20 66 72 6f 6d  |ility discs from|
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000005a0  74 20 69 74 0d 61 70 70  65 61 72 73 20 74 6f 20  |t it.appears to |
000005b0  62 65 20 69 6d 70 6f 73  73 69 62 6c 65 20 74 6f  |be impossible to|
000005c0  20 66 6f 72 6d 61 74 20  77 69 74 68 69 6e 20 74  | format within t|
000005d0  68 65 20 42 42 43 20 65  6d 75 6c 61 74 6f 72 2e  |he BBC emulator.|
000005e0  0d 0d 20 50 65 72 68 61  70 73 20 69 66 20 49 20  |.. Perhaps if I |
000005f0  73 65 6e 64 20 61 20 63  6f 70 79 20 6f 66 20 74  |send a copy of t|
00000600  68 65 20 50 44 20 44 65  73 6b 74 6f 70 20 46 6f  |he PD Desktop Fo|
00000610  72 6d 61 74 74 65 72 20  70 72 6f 67 72 61 6d 20  |rmatter program |
00000620  74 6f 20 73 6f 6d 65 6f  6e 65 0d 68 61 6e 64 79  |to someone.handy|
00000630  20 61 74 20 70 72 6f 67  72 61 6d 6d 69 6e 67 2c  | at programming,|
00000640  74 68 65 79 20 63 6f 75  6c 64 20 61 61 64 61 70  |they could aadap|
00000650  74 20 69 74 20 66 6f 72  20 6d 65 20 3f 0d 0d 4a  |t it for me ?..J|
00000660  6f 68 6e 20 43 72 61 6e  65 20 33 34 20 53 74 20  |ohn Crane 34 St |
00000670  41 6e 64 72 65 77 73 20  57 61 6c 6b 20 48 61 72  |Andrews Walk Har|
00000680  72 6f 67 61 74 65 20 4e  6f 72 74 68 20 59 6f 72  |rogate North Yor|
00000690  6b 73 20 48 47 32 20 37  52 4c 20 28 30 31 34 32  |ks HG2 7RL (0142|
000006a0  33 29 20 38 38 35 30 34  39 0d                    |3) 885049.|
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