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L/Litt1
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| Filename: | L/Litt1 |
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| File size: | 149B bytes |
| Load address: | 24206576 |
| Exec address: | 4C2E4C2E |
File contents
The Old Police House
Main Road
Filby
Great Yarmouth
NR29 3HY
Dear 'Gus
As you already know, this month's Game Show is the last one I'll be doing
for sometime. Alas, too many pressures.
I have also included an write-up on the way I mended my workdisk after
ADFS got in a bad mood and destroyed it - yep, ADFS managed it, it wasn't
one of those times when you could kick yourself because you left it on top
off a 150 Watt speaker. ADFS writing over your disk; a novel way to go!
But not just that, my computer's been giving me lots of hastle lately.
When I was writing about it (and carefully saving my document
every 2.5 seconds, and checkingADFShas put it in the right place) ADFS
and I had a conversation something like this:
(ME) *.
(ELK) [Only file in dir: show1]
(ME) save error
(ELK) File Not Deleted [try finding that error in the Plus 3 manual!]
Somehow I did manage to save it. I bet having a BBC is not anywhere as
near exciting.
In my letter to you a couple of month's ago, I voiced my approval for an
EUG on paper, which you then picked up on in the editorial. In that
letter, I stated the direction in which I think EUG should go, which you
therefore know. For the benefit of the other members, and to stir up
discussion a bit (wake up everyone), I will now say how I feel. Like 'Gus
said, there are various forms in which the magazine could go, either fully
on disk, fully on disk and fully on paper, fully on disk with the text on
paper, the programs on disk and the text on paper. I think these are the
only possibilities, and I don't give much credence to a few of these.
I think that everything in the magazine should be available on disk, both
text and programs, so that this would be the cheapest form of the
magazine. I then think that if people wish to pay extra, a nice looking
paper form of the magazine text could come out. It is often easier to read
text on paper than on a television or a monitor. Very few of the people
who wanted the magazine text would want the programs included, because
they would be paying for something which they will never use, but for
those who have non-standard disk systems, or even tape, there could be an
additional extra insert which carried all the program listings, somewhat
like the 'yellow pages' from the old format BBC Acorn User. I would very
strongly oppose, and don't doubt the majority of others would, a fully
paper-based EUG. It would be such a dissapointment, but I don't think that
would happen. If it did, I would be upset that I had raised the issue. The
other option was to have the text on paper, with a program disk. I
personally like the menu system of EUG, and I think it would be a shame
basing the magazine around paper, with a disk as extra. I don't think a
'cover disk' would suit many people.
Another point, which I raised on the 'phone with you, is Electron User
programs being used a fill-in for the extra disk space. I seem to remember
someone suggesting that old EUG programs and articles should be reprinted.
I oppose this idea, believing that when a magazine starts doing this then
it's running out of fresh inspiration, and will then go to another one.
But as for old Electron User programs, there is a very good reason - how
many people got a disk version of the programs? I didn't. And so I would
suggest that if prgrams and games were submitted, they could form a nice
subsection of EUG. On a paper based EUG I think it would be pointless to
republish the program listings - like I made clear, it would appear the
magazine was in it's dotage. I have the impression all of the programs
are, now, Public Domain, but I think if a section were to build up around
it, it would be best to get written permission from Europress Ltd
(formerly Database Publications Ltd) to cover everything. Republication on
a grand scale might not please them.
Ross Little.
EUG WILL PUBLISH ELECTRON USER PROGRAMS BUT ONLY AFTER SOME MODIFICATION
HAS BEEN MADE TO THE ORIGINAL LISTING. I REA;ISE TYHAT THIS MAY SOUND A
LITTLE PETTY BUT REALLY EUG SHOULD BE A MEANS OF EXCHANGING IDEAS.
MODIFICATIONS DON'T NEED TO BE MAJOR, I USED THEIR TEXED PROGRAM FOR A
WHILE AND I DID SOME CHANGES TO IT, SCREEN COLOUR WAS ONE, ALSO I THINK I
PUT AN EXTRA FUNCTION INTO THE MENU.
AS YOU WILL NOTICE THERE HASN'T REALLY BEEN MUCH RESPONSE TO THE IDEA OF
CHANGING EUG, APART FROM YOURS I HAVE ONLY BEEN CONTACTED BY ONE OTHER
MEMBER WHO LIKED THINGS AS THEY ARE.
I HAVE INCLUDED A PROGRAM ON THE MAIN MENU TO PRINT OUT ALL THE TEXT FILES
WITH ONE PASS. COMMENTS ON THIS WILL BE MOST WELCOME. DO YOU WANT PROGRAM
LISTINGS AS WELL? DOES IT WORK WELL WITH YOUR PRINTER? AS SOMEBODY ONCE
SAID 'IF YOU DON'T SPEAK UP, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY.'
THANKS AGAIN ROSS FOR ALL YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS AND LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING
FROM YOU AGAIN.
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