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| Filename: | EDIT1 |
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| File size: | 0B54 bytes |
| Load address: | 2B206576 |
| Exec address: | 74696445 |
File contents
Well sorry yet again for being so late with EUG. The Internet continues to feature in the news. The American courts have apparently blocked a bill which would have restricted some items appearing because it is unconstitutional. The American government is appealing, the political consequences of enforcing censorship outweigh their responsibilities to uphold the constitution. I recently read an article in a suppliment of the Daily Telegraph on the different internet service providers. I thought of typing it in but I am so late with EUG that it would take too much time. Suffice to say that there are a lot of providers each providing somehing different. The commercial providers might allow you to join free of charge but then wack you if you use the service for more than the alloted time each month. This is apparently easy since access can take some time and of course there is so much to see. The conclusion seems to be to start with a commercial service to get use to it and then move over later to one of the others. Compuserve is quoted at `6.50 per month and gives 5 hours free access after which they charge `2 per hour. UK Online offers unlimited access but costs `15 per month. The prices might not be relevant to our non-UK members but the principal is. See what you are getting before you buy. I saw a cartoon the other day, a dog was strapped onto a bed, a mean looking man was nearby holding a sharp knife and another dog was holding a bucket saying to the first dog, 'spit in the bucket, spit in the bucket'. I told this to one of the men who I work with who has three young children. He immediately recognised the cartoon in question and said his kids watched it and thought it was great. I must just be getting old. It's sad really, I always promised myself that I would never lose touch with young minds and ideas but now that I seem to be doing just that I'm not really worried. I don't think I can bring myself to enjoy hearing one dog telling another dog to spit into a bucket. But that is probably the point. When I was a teenager my peers either wanted to grow their hair or did so, we listened to the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Wishbone Ash and the Maharishi. Nixon was vindication of what we had been saying all along, the seeds of the environmental movement were being sewn and we thought we might just control the world after all, which of course we did and still do. The 'older generation' seemed to be shocked and worried that we might one day take over, we enjoyed this but didn't admit it to ourselves and really this was all part of the process, growing up, trying new ideas, thinking. I just don't understand why that dog wanted that other dog to spit into a bucket. I have ammended the info section to give some details of sending submissions to EUG. Please keep these comming in, They make, no, you make EUG. Without what you do there is no EUG.
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It's.sad reall| 000006e0 79 2c 20 49 20 61 6c 77 61 79 73 20 70 72 6f 6d |y, I always prom| 000006f0 69 73 65 64 20 6d 79 73 65 6c 66 20 74 68 61 74 |ised myself that| 00000700 20 49 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 6e 65 76 65 72 20 6c | I would never l| 00000710 6f 73 65 20 74 6f 75 63 68 20 77 69 74 68 0d 79 |ose touch with.y| 00000720 6f 75 6e 67 20 6d 69 6e 64 73 20 61 6e 64 20 69 |oung minds and i| 00000730 64 65 61 73 20 62 75 74 20 6e 6f 77 20 74 68 61 |deas but now tha| 00000740 74 20 49 20 73 65 65 6d 20 74 6f 20 62 65 20 64 |t I seem to be d| 00000750 6f 69 6e 67 20 6a 75 73 74 20 74 68 61 74 20 49 |oing just that I| 00000760 27 6d 20 6e 6f 74 0d 72 65 61 6c 6c 79 20 77 6f |'m not.really wo| 00000770 72 72 69 65 64 2e 20 49 20 64 6f 6e 27 74 20 74 |rried. I don't t| 00000780 68 69 6e 6b 20 49 20 63 61 6e 20 62 72 69 6e 67 |hink I can bring| 00000790 20 6d 79 73 65 6c 66 20 74 6f 20 65 6e 6a 6f 79 | myself to enjoy| 000007a0 20 68 65 61 72 69 6e 67 20 6f 6e 65 20 64 6f 67 | hearing one dog| 000007b0 0d 74 65 6c 6c 69 6e 67 20 61 6e 6f 74 68 65 72 |.telling another| 000007c0 20 64 6f 67 20 74 6f 20 73 70 69 74 20 69 6e 74 | dog to spit int| 000007d0 6f 20 61 20 62 75 63 6b 65 74 2e 20 42 75 74 20 |o a bucket. 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The 'o| 00000970 6c 64 65 72 20 67 65 6e 65 72 61 74 69 6f 6e 27 |lder generation'| 00000980 20 73 65 65 6d 65 64 20 74 6f 20 62 65 20 73 68 | seemed to be sh| 00000990 6f 63 6b 65 64 20 61 6e 64 20 77 6f 72 72 69 65 |ocked and worrie| 000009a0 64 20 74 68 61 74 20 77 65 20 6d 69 67 68 74 0d |d that we might.| 000009b0 6f 6e 65 20 64 61 79 20 74 61 6b 65 20 6f 76 65 |one day take ove| 000009c0 72 2c 20 77 65 20 65 6e 6a 6f 79 65 64 20 74 68 |r, we enjoyed th| 000009d0 69 73 20 62 75 74 20 64 69 64 6e 27 74 20 61 64 |is but didn't ad| 000009e0 6d 69 74 20 69 74 20 74 6f 20 6f 75 72 73 65 6c |mit it to oursel| 000009f0 76 65 73 20 61 6e 64 0d 72 65 61 6c 6c 79 20 74 |ves and.really t| 00000a00 68 69 73 20 77 61 73 20 61 6c 6c 20 70 61 72 74 |his was all part| 00000a10 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 70 72 6f 63 65 73 73 2c | of the process,| 00000a20 20 67 72 6f 77 69 6e 67 20 75 70 2c 20 74 72 79 | growing up, try| 00000a30 69 6e 67 20 6e 65 77 20 69 64 65 61 73 2c 0d 74 |ing new ideas,.t| 00000a40 68 69 6e 6b 69 6e 67 2e 20 49 20 6a 75 73 74 20 |hinking. I just | 00000a50 64 6f 6e 27 74 20 75 6e 64 65 72 73 74 61 6e 64 |don't understand| 00000a60 20 77 68 79 20 74 68 61 74 20 64 6f 67 20 77 61 | why that dog wa| 00000a70 6e 74 65 64 20 74 68 61 74 20 6f 74 68 65 72 20 |nted that other | 00000a80 64 6f 67 20 74 6f 0d 73 70 69 74 20 69 6e 74 6f |dog to.spit into| 00000a90 20 61 20 62 75 63 6b 65 74 2e 0d 0d 49 20 68 61 | a bucket...I ha| 00000aa0 76 65 20 61 6d 6d 65 6e 64 65 64 20 74 68 65 20 |ve ammended the | 00000ab0 69 6e 66 6f 20 73 65 63 74 69 6f 6e 20 74 6f 20 |info section to | 00000ac0 67 69 76 65 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 64 65 74 61 69 6c |give some detail| 00000ad0 73 20 6f 66 20 73 65 6e 64 69 6e 67 0d 73 75 62 |s of sending.sub| 00000ae0 6d 69 73 73 69 6f 6e 73 20 74 6f 20 45 55 47 2e |missions to EUG.| 00000af0 20 50 6c 65 61 73 65 20 6b 65 65 70 20 74 68 65 | Please keep the| 00000b00 73 65 20 63 6f 6d 6d 69 6e 67 20 69 6e 2c 20 54 |se comming in, T| 00000b10 68 65 79 20 6d 61 6b 65 2c 20 6e 6f 2c 20 79 6f |hey make, no, yo| 00000b20 75 20 6d 61 6b 65 0d 45 55 47 2e 20 57 69 74 68 |u make.EUG. With| 00000b30 6f 75 74 20 77 68 61 74 20 79 6f 75 20 64 6f 20 |out what you do | 00000b40 74 68 65 72 65 20 69 73 20 6e 6f 20 45 55 47 2e |there is no EUG.| 00000b50 20 0d 0d 0d | ...| 00000b54
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