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| Exec address: | 6E617263 |
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Dear Gus, I've just received 8BS-66 and it appears this is to be the last of this magazine,at least fot the forseeable future.However 8BS (8 Bit Software) is not just a magazine.It has a massive Acorn 8 Bit (BBC etc) PD library and its own internet website.This side of it will be continuing,so there's still plenty for the seasoned '8-bitter' to go at. Speaking personally though I will miss it.I rather like the exchange of views and look forward to 'chatting' to people via the disc.I must admit to being an internet sceptic.I use email at work,albeit on a Local network and an awful lot of time seems to be wasted,waiting to get connected and then waiting for things to download etc. EUG then, seems to be my only hope.A nice disc full of letters etc to read at my leisure.Slam in the disc,boot it up and 'Mrs Craddock's your Mother's sister',if you catch my drift.Don't worry they'll be taking me away shortly !! Incidentally I've heard about 5.25" discs becoming scarce but how about 3.5" discs. The other day I went in search of a reasonable quantity of the Double Density variety and they aren't quite so easy to find now.Argos and quite a lot of Computer stockists,only stock High Density.Certainly round my neck of the woods anyway.First Computer still stock them and they have a few branches here and there for anyone who needs them and there are still quite a few mail order firms advertising in Micro-Mart.Although I always see this as a bit of a step into the unknown. Following on.Years ago discs were Single Density.I'm only guessing but is this where 8271 DFS came in.SD discs were phased out when Double Density came along.Presumably anybody still using SD format machinery would just format DD discs to the SD format and so long as you didn't try to cram a DD format onto an SD disc,everything would be fine.If the same fate befalls DD discs does the same logic apply. i.e a High Density disc could be formatted to Double Density,as that's well within its capacity (2MB), but putting a High Density format e.g ADFS 1.6MB or DOS 1.44 onto a Double Density disc (which is only meant to hold a max 1MB) would be risky.Is there a definitive answer ? Just a thought. I've been following Alan Richardson's pleas for help and unfortunately I can't offer much help,having had no experience of the Cumana interface.However I've had a glimmer of inspiration.I thought I'd seen reference to this in EUG in the past.I've performed an in depth search and discovered a letter from Sheila Bridges on EUG15 (Aug '94) disc.I've copied it across and included it on this disc (Cumana),to save you searching. I have been unable to locate any more info on the Cumana,so far.I couldn't find any address mentioned.Is Sheila Bridges still a member ? Did 'WE HERE AT THE OFFICES OF EUG' ever solve her problem and if so could this be an 'avenue to explore' to assist Alan ? Meanwhile I am doing my bit searching small ads,boot sales etc. Anyway here's to the continued existance of EUG. John Crane,34 St Andrews Walk,Harrogate,North Yorkshire,HG2 7RL To be honest there are times when I do think about throwing in the towel but I for one am having far too much fun with EUG. So long as the submissions keep comming there will be an EUG. This one is not one of our best. What we have is good but there isn't much of it. I have resorted to 'padding' it a bit with a couple of games gleaned from some old PCW discs. The interest is still there though and EUG will continue while it is. If there comes a time when EUG does have to call it a day I will warn everyone in advance. Whatever happens though take each edition one at a time. We have had a remarkable run and we are on borrowed time somewhat. HD discs are not reliable. I have been sent a couple with submissions but have been unable to read them. I will have to look around for DD discs. Without them we have a BIG problem. 5.25" discs are not a problem now since I got several hundred for a reasonable price. It's funny, a while ago I was suggesting to everyone that they should buy a 3.5" drive as 5.25" discs were becomming scarce. Lets hope that the forces of progress don't destroy us before we do! I am in the process of setting up an internet site for EUG. I have managed to get an email site: electronuser@x-stream.co.uk Hopefully I shall be able to set up a full web site and EUG can be saved for posterity. A few hundred years from now on some space station in a far corner of the galaxy a group of school children might be flicking through the 'net and find it.
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Ju| 00000880 73 74 20 61 20 74 68 6f 75 67 68 74 2e 20 0d 0d |st a thought. ..| 00000890 20 20 49 27 76 65 20 62 65 65 6e 20 66 6f 6c 6c | I've been foll| 000008a0 6f 77 69 6e 67 20 41 6c 61 6e 20 52 69 63 68 61 |owing Alan Richa| 000008b0 72 64 73 6f 6e 27 73 20 70 6c 65 61 73 20 66 6f |rdson's pleas fo| 000008c0 72 20 68 65 6c 70 20 61 6e 64 20 75 6e 66 6f 72 |r help and unfor| 000008d0 74 75 6e 61 74 65 6c 79 20 49 0d 63 61 6e 27 74 |tunately I.can't| 000008e0 20 6f 66 66 65 72 20 6d 75 63 68 20 68 65 6c 70 | offer much help| 000008f0 2c 68 61 76 69 6e 67 20 68 61 64 20 6e 6f 20 65 |,having had no e| 00000900 78 70 65 72 69 65 6e 63 65 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 |xperience of the| 00000910 20 43 75 6d 61 6e 61 0d 69 6e 74 65 72 66 61 63 | Cumana.interfac| 00000920 65 2e 48 6f 77 65 76 65 72 20 49 27 76 65 20 68 |e.However I've h| 00000930 61 64 20 61 20 67 6c 69 6d 6d 65 72 20 6f 66 20 |ad a glimmer of | 00000940 69 6e 73 70 69 72 61 74 69 6f 6e 2e 49 20 74 68 |inspiration.I th| 00000950 6f 75 67 68 74 20 49 27 64 20 73 65 65 6e 0d 72 |ought I'd seen.r| 00000960 65 66 65 72 65 6e 63 65 20 74 6f 20 74 68 69 73 |eference to this| 00000970 20 69 6e 20 45 55 47 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 70 | in EUG in the p| 00000980 61 73 74 2e 49 27 76 65 20 70 65 72 66 6f 72 6d |ast.I've perform| 00000990 65 64 20 61 6e 20 69 6e 20 64 65 70 74 68 20 73 |ed an in depth s| 000009a0 65 61 72 63 68 20 61 6e 64 0d 64 69 73 63 6f 76 |earch and.discov| 000009b0 65 72 65 64 20 61 20 6c 65 74 74 65 72 20 66 72 |ered a letter fr| 000009c0 6f 6d 20 53 68 65 69 6c 61 20 42 72 69 64 67 65 |om Sheila Bridge| 000009d0 73 20 6f 6e 20 45 55 47 31 35 20 28 41 75 67 20 |s on EUG15 (Aug | 000009e0 27 39 34 29 20 64 69 73 63 2e 49 27 76 65 0d 63 |'94) disc.I've.c| 000009f0 6f 70 69 65 64 20 69 74 20 61 63 72 6f 73 73 20 |opied it across | 00000a00 61 6e 64 20 69 6e 63 6c 75 64 65 64 20 69 74 20 |and included it | 00000a10 6f 6e 20 74 68 69 73 20 64 69 73 63 20 28 43 75 |on this disc (Cu| 00000a20 6d 61 6e 61 29 2c 74 6f 20 73 61 76 65 20 79 6f |mana),to save yo| 00000a30 75 20 73 65 61 72 63 68 69 6e 67 2e 0d 0d 20 20 |u searching... | 00000a40 49 20 68 61 76 65 20 62 65 65 6e 20 75 6e 61 62 |I have been unab| 00000a50 6c 65 20 74 6f 20 6c 6f 63 61 74 65 20 61 6e 79 |le to locate any| 00000a60 20 6d 6f 72 65 20 69 6e 66 6f 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 | more info on th| 00000a70 65 20 43 75 6d 61 6e 61 2c 73 6f 20 66 61 72 2e |e Cumana,so far.| 00000a80 49 0d 63 6f 75 6c 64 6e 27 74 20 66 69 6e 64 20 |I.couldn't find | 00000a90 61 6e 79 20 61 64 64 72 65 73 73 20 6d 65 6e 74 |any address ment| 00000aa0 69 6f 6e 65 64 2e 49 73 20 53 68 65 69 6c 61 20 |ioned.Is Sheila | 00000ab0 42 72 69 64 67 65 73 20 73 74 69 6c 6c 20 61 20 |Bridges still a | 00000ac0 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 20 3f 0d 44 69 64 20 27 57 45 |member ?.Did 'WE| 00000ad0 20 48 45 52 45 20 41 54 20 54 48 45 20 4f 46 46 | HERE AT THE OFF| 00000ae0 49 43 45 53 20 4f 46 20 45 55 47 27 20 65 76 65 |ICES OF EUG' eve| 00000af0 72 20 73 6f 6c 76 65 20 68 65 72 20 70 72 6f 62 |r solve her prob| 00000b00 6c 65 6d 20 61 6e 64 20 69 66 20 73 6f 20 63 6f |lem and if so co| 00000b10 75 6c 64 0d 74 68 69 73 20 62 65 20 61 6e 20 27 |uld.this be an '| 00000b20 61 76 65 6e 75 65 20 74 6f 20 65 78 70 6c 6f 72 |avenue to explor| 00000b30 65 27 20 74 6f 20 61 73 73 69 73 74 20 41 6c 61 |e' to assist Ala| 00000b40 6e 20 3f 20 4d 65 61 6e 77 68 69 6c 65 20 49 20 |n ? Meanwhile I | 00000b50 61 6d 20 64 6f 69 6e 67 20 6d 79 0d 62 69 74 20 |am doing my.bit | 00000b60 73 65 61 72 63 68 69 6e 67 20 73 6d 61 6c 6c 20 |searching small | 00000b70 61 64 73 2c 62 6f 6f 74 20 73 61 6c 65 73 20 65 |ads,boot sales e| 00000b80 74 63 2e 0d 0d 20 41 6e 79 77 61 79 20 68 65 72 |tc... Anyway her| 00000b90 65 27 73 20 74 6f 20 74 68 65 20 63 6f 6e 74 69 |e's to the conti| 00000ba0 6e 75 65 64 20 65 78 69 73 74 61 6e 63 65 20 6f |nued existance o| 00000bb0 66 20 45 55 47 2e 0d 20 0d 4a 6f 68 6e 20 43 72 |f EUG.. .John Cr| 00000bc0 61 6e 65 2c 33 34 20 53 74 20 41 6e 64 72 65 77 |ane,34 St Andrew| 00000bd0 73 20 57 61 6c 6b 2c 48 61 72 72 6f 67 61 74 65 |s Walk,Harrogate| 00000be0 2c 4e 6f 72 74 68 20 59 6f 72 6b 73 68 69 72 65 |,North Yorkshire| 00000bf0 2c 48 47 32 20 37 52 4c 0d 0d 1c 54 6f 20 62 65 |,HG2 7RL...To be| 00000c00 20 68 6f 6e 65 73 74 20 74 68 65 72 65 20 61 72 | honest there ar| 00000c10 65 20 74 69 6d 65 73 20 77 68 65 6e 20 49 20 64 |e times when I d| 00000c20 6f 20 74 68 69 6e 6b 20 61 62 6f 75 74 20 74 68 |o think about th| 00000c30 72 6f 77 69 6e 67 20 69 6e 20 74 68 65 20 74 6f |rowing in the to| 00000c40 77 65 6c 0d 62 75 74 20 49 20 66 6f 72 20 6f 6e |wel.but I for on| 00000c50 65 20 61 6d 20 68 61 76 69 6e 67 20 66 61 72 20 |e am having far | 00000c60 74 6f 6f 20 6d 75 63 68 20 66 75 6e 20 77 69 74 |too much fun wit| 00000c70 68 20 45 55 47 2e 20 53 6f 20 6c 6f 6e 67 20 61 |h EUG. So long a| 00000c80 73 20 74 68 65 0d 73 75 62 6d 69 73 73 69 6f 6e |s the.submission| 00000c90 73 20 6b 65 65 70 20 63 6f 6d 6d 69 6e 67 20 74 |s keep comming t| 00000ca0 68 65 72 65 20 77 69 6c 6c 20 62 65 20 61 6e 20 |here will be an | 00000cb0 45 55 47 2e 0d 0d 54 68 69 73 20 6f 6e 65 20 69 |EUG...This one i| 00000cc0 73 20 6e 6f 74 20 6f 6e 65 20 6f 66 20 6f 75 72 |s not one of our| 00000cd0 20 62 65 73 74 2e 20 57 68 61 74 20 77 65 20 68 | best. What we h| 00000ce0 61 76 65 20 69 73 20 67 6f 6f 64 20 62 75 74 20 |ave is good but | 00000cf0 74 68 65 72 65 20 69 73 6e 27 74 20 6d 75 63 68 |there isn't much| 00000d00 0d 6f 66 20 69 74 2e 20 49 20 68 61 76 65 20 72 |.of it. 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