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F/8BS1
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| Filename: | F/8BS1 |
| Read OK: | ✔ |
| File size: | 0AD2 bytes |
| Load address: | 38204556 |
| Exec address: | D315342 |
File contents
JOHN CRANE
34 ST ANDREWS WALK
HARROGATE
NORTH YORKSHIRE
HG2 7RL
8-BIT SOFTWARE A REVIEW
I sent for the introductory disc package,and I found it to be quite
interesting,with however one or two reservations.Firstly by running the
discs on my A3010 with BBC emulation I was able to view the teletext Mode7
screens in the format they were produced in and at first glance it all
looks very nice,all those different colours !! However my colour portable
isn't up to much as a viewing screen and so I found a lot of stuff very
hard to read,especially the Dark blue text,which seemed to just merge in
with the background.There is the option of reading all the text in 80 col
b+w which I found a lot easier to read,only strangely enough this facility
didn't work on the A3010,but performed admirably on the Elk.The only
drawback,of course is that you can't see any graphics on the Elk without
Mode 7 capability,although 99% of the disc is text anyway.
COMPATABILITY.
A3010,running the Beeb emulator read all 8BS-46 (the magazine disc),except
the first choice on the Main Menu, About this Disc.As I've already said 80
col mode (Press 8 instead of Return), had no effect;it just continued in
Mode 7.Also some articles designed to automatically read in 80 col mode,
such as the editorial , would not scroll beyond the first screenful.
Pressing the cursor arrows,as instructed simply returned to the Main Menu.
TB1-00 (the PD catalogue/introductory disc) worked in a similar fashion.
8BS-46 worked fine on the Electron,in 80 col mode ,as described above.
However I had a bit of bother with TB1-00,which gave "No room"errors.
My plus 3 is an original Acorn "L" shaped one which takes page with ADFS
to 1D00,which I know can be a problem.Fortunately though my Electron has a
Slogger 64K MRB fitted,so I was able to run TB1-00 in 64K mode with no ill
effects.
OVERALL
Anyway,the upshot of it all is I like what I've seen so far of 8BS and
so I've enrolled for membership.As I understand it,Chris is studying the
Elk,so it should become more Elk friendly as time goes on.Certainly the PD
library is incredible,and getting bigger all the time.Its worth being a
member just for that and also the Eprom programming service that's
available.As far as I'm concerned it will never replace EUG,but it is
definitely well worth supporting.
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I| 000001a0 1a 20 73 65 6e 74 1a 20 66 6f 72 1a 20 74 68 65 |. sent. for. the| 000001b0 1a 20 69 6e 74 72 6f 64 75 63 74 6f 72 79 1a 20 |. introductory. | 000001c0 64 69 73 63 1a 20 70 61 63 6b 61 67 65 2c 61 6e |disc. package,an| 000001d0 64 20 49 20 66 6f 75 6e 64 20 69 74 20 74 6f 20 |d I found it to | 000001e0 62 65 20 71 75 69 74 65 0d 69 6e 74 65 72 65 73 |be quite.interes| 000001f0 74 69 6e 67 2c 77 69 74 68 1a 20 68 6f 77 65 76 |ting,with. howev| 00000200 65 72 20 6f 6e 65 20 6f 72 20 74 77 6f 20 72 65 |er one or two re| 00000210 73 65 72 76 61 74 69 6f 6e 73 2e 46 69 72 73 74 |servations.First| 00000220 6c 79 20 62 79 1a 20 72 75 6e 6e 69 6e 67 1a 20 |ly by. running. | 00000230 74 68 65 0d 64 69 73 63 73 20 6f 6e 20 6d 79 20 |the.discs on my | 00000240 41 33 30 31 30 20 77 69 74 68 20 42 42 43 20 65 |A3010 with BBC e| 00000250 6d 75 6c 61 74 69 6f 6e 20 49 20 77 61 73 20 61 |mulation I was a| 00000260 62 6c 65 20 74 6f 20 76 69 65 77 20 74 68 65 20 |ble to view the | 00000270 74 65 6c 65 74 65 78 74 20 4d 6f 64 65 37 0d 73 |teletext Mode7.s| 00000280 63 72 65 65 6e 73 20 69 6e 1a 20 74 68 65 1a 20 |creens in. the. | 00000290 66 6f 72 6d 61 74 1a 20 74 68 65 79 1a 20 77 65 |format. they. we| 000002a0 72 65 20 70 72 6f 64 75 63 65 64 20 69 6e 20 61 |re produced in a| 000002b0 6e 64 20 61 74 20 66 69 72 73 74 20 67 6c 61 6e |nd at first glan| 000002c0 63 65 20 69 74 20 61 6c 6c 0d 6c 6f 6f 6b 73 20 |ce it all.looks | 000002d0 76 65 72 79 20 6e 69 63 65 2c 61 6c 6c 20 74 68 |very nice,all th| 000002e0 6f 73 65 20 64 69 66 66 65 72 65 6e 74 20 63 6f |ose different co| 000002f0 6c 6f 75 72 73 20 21 21 20 48 6f 77 65 76 65 72 |lours !! However| 00000300 20 6d 79 20 63 6f 6c 6f 75 72 20 70 6f 72 74 61 | my colour porta| 00000310 62 6c 65 20 0d 69 73 6e 27 74 20 75 70 20 74 6f |ble .isn't up to| 00000320 20 6d 75 63 68 20 61 73 20 61 1a 20 76 69 65 77 | much as a. view| 00000330 69 6e 67 1a 20 73 63 72 65 65 6e 1a 20 61 6e 64 |ing. screen. and| 00000340 20 73 6f 20 49 20 66 6f 75 6e 64 20 61 20 6c 6f | so I found a lo| 00000350 74 20 6f 66 20 73 74 75 66 66 20 76 65 72 79 0d |t of stuff very.| 00000360 68 61 72 64 20 74 6f 20 72 65 61 64 2c 65 73 70 |hard to read,esp| 00000370 65 63 69 61 6c 6c 79 20 74 68 65 20 44 61 72 6b |ecially the Dark| 00000380 20 62 6c 75 65 20 74 65 78 74 2c 77 68 69 63 68 | blue text,which| 00000390 20 73 65 65 6d 65 64 20 74 6f 20 6a 75 73 74 20 | seemed to just | 000003a0 6d 65 72 67 65 20 69 6e 20 0d 77 69 74 68 20 74 |merge in .with t| 000003b0 68 65 20 62 61 63 6b 67 72 6f 75 6e 64 2e 54 68 |he background.Th| 000003c0 65 72 65 20 69 73 20 74 68 65 20 6f 70 74 69 6f |ere is the optio| 000003d0 6e 20 6f 66 20 72 65 61 64 69 6e 67 20 61 6c 6c |n of reading all| 000003e0 1a 20 74 68 65 20 74 65 78 74 20 69 6e 20 38 30 |. the text in 80| 000003f0 20 63 6f 6c 0d 62 2b 77 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 49 | col.b+w which I| 00000400 20 66 6f 75 6e 64 20 61 20 6c 6f 74 20 65 61 73 | found a lot eas| 00000410 69 65 72 20 74 6f 20 72 65 61 64 2c 6f 6e 6c 79 |ier to read,only| 00000420 20 73 74 72 61 6e 67 65 6c 79 20 65 6e 6f 75 67 | strangely enoug| 00000430 68 20 74 68 69 73 20 66 61 63 69 6c 69 74 79 0d |h this facility.| 00000440 64 69 64 6e 27 74 1a 20 77 6f 72 6b 1a 20 6f 6e |didn't. work. on| 00000450 1a 20 74 68 65 1a 20 41 33 30 31 30 2c 62 75 74 |. the. A3010,but| 00000460 1a 20 70 65 72 66 6f 72 6d 65 64 1a 20 61 64 6d |. performed. adm| 00000470 69 72 61 62 6c 79 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 45 6c |irably on the El| 00000480 6b 2e 54 68 65 20 6f 6e 6c 79 0d 64 72 61 77 62 |k.The only.drawb| 00000490 61 63 6b 2c 6f 66 20 63 6f 75 72 73 65 20 69 73 |ack,of course is| 000004a0 20 74 68 61 74 20 79 6f 75 20 63 61 6e 27 74 20 | that you can't | 000004b0 73 65 65 1a 20 61 6e 79 1a 20 67 72 61 70 68 69 |see. any. graphi| 000004c0 63 73 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 45 6c 6b 20 77 69 |cs on the Elk wi| 000004d0 74 68 6f 75 74 0d 4d 6f 64 65 20 37 20 63 61 70 |thout.Mode 7 cap| 000004e0 61 62 69 6c 69 74 79 2c 61 6c 74 68 6f 75 67 68 |ability,although| 000004f0 20 39 39 25 20 6f 66 20 74 68 65 20 64 69 73 63 | 99% of the disc| 00000500 20 69 73 20 74 65 78 74 20 61 6e 79 77 61 79 2e | is text anyway.| 00000510 0d 0d 20 43 4f 4d 50 41 54 41 42 49 4c 49 54 59 |.. COMPATABILITY| 00000520 2e 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 |. | 00000530 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 | | * 00000550 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0d 41 33 30 | .A30| 00000560 31 30 2c 72 75 6e 6e 69 6e 67 20 74 68 65 20 42 |10,running the B| 00000570 65 65 62 20 65 6d 75 6c 61 74 6f 72 20 72 65 61 |eeb emulator rea| 00000580 64 20 61 6c 6c 20 38 42 53 2d 34 36 20 28 74 68 |d all 8BS-46 (th| 00000590 65 20 6d 61 67 61 7a 69 6e 65 20 64 69 73 63 29 |e magazine disc)| 000005a0 2c 65 78 63 65 70 74 0d 74 68 65 20 66 69 72 73 |,except.the firs| 000005b0 74 20 63 68 6f 69 63 65 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 |t choice on the | 000005c0 4d 61 69 6e 20 4d 65 6e 75 2c 20 41 62 6f 75 74 |Main Menu, About| 000005d0 20 74 68 69 73 20 44 69 73 63 2e 41 73 20 49 27 | this Disc.As I'| 000005e0 76 65 20 61 6c 72 65 61 64 79 20 73 61 69 64 20 |ve already said | 000005f0 38 30 0d 63 6f 6c 20 6d 6f 64 65 20 28 50 72 65 |80.col mode (Pre| 00000600 73 73 20 38 20 69 6e 73 74 65 61 64 20 6f 66 20 |ss 8 instead of | 00000610 52 65 74 75 72 6e 29 2c 20 20 20 68 61 64 20 6e |Return), had n| 00000620 6f 20 65 66 66 65 63 74 3b 69 74 20 6a 75 73 74 |o effect;it just| 00000630 20 63 6f 6e 74 69 6e 75 65 64 20 69 6e 0d 4d 6f | continued in.Mo| 00000640 64 65 20 37 2e 41 6c 73 6f 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 61 |de 7.Also some a| 00000650 72 74 69 63 6c 65 73 20 64 65 73 69 67 6e 65 64 |rticles designed| 00000660 20 74 6f 20 61 75 74 6f 6d 61 74 69 63 61 6c 6c | to automaticall| 00000670 79 20 72 65 61 64 20 69 6e 20 38 30 20 63 6f 6c |y read in 80 col| 00000680 20 6d 6f 64 65 2c 20 20 0d 73 75 63 68 20 61 73 | mode, .such as| 00000690 20 74 68 65 20 65 64 69 74 6f 72 69 61 6c 20 2c | the editorial ,| 000006a0 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 20 6e 6f 74 20 20 73 63 72 | would not scr| 000006b0 6f 6c 6c 20 62 65 79 6f 6e 64 20 74 68 65 20 20 |oll beyond the | 000006c0 66 69 72 73 74 20 20 73 63 72 65 65 6e 66 75 6c |first screenful| 000006d0 2e 0d 50 72 65 73 73 69 6e 67 20 74 68 65 20 63 |..Pressing the c| 000006e0 75 72 73 6f 72 20 61 72 72 6f 77 73 2c 61 73 20 |ursor arrows,as | 000006f0 69 6e 73 74 72 75 63 74 65 64 20 73 69 6d 70 6c |instructed simpl| 00000700 79 20 72 65 74 75 72 6e 65 64 20 74 6f 20 74 68 |y returned to th| 00000710 65 20 4d 61 69 6e 20 4d 65 6e 75 2e 0d 54 42 31 |e Main Menu..TB1| 00000720 2d 30 30 20 28 74 68 65 20 50 44 20 63 61 74 61 |-00 (the PD cata| 00000730 6c 6f 67 75 65 2f 69 6e 74 72 6f 64 75 63 74 6f |logue/introducto| 00000740 72 79 20 64 69 73 63 29 20 77 6f 72 6b 65 64 20 |ry disc) worked | 00000750 69 6e 20 61 20 73 69 6d 69 6c 61 72 20 66 61 73 |in a similar fas| 00000760 68 69 6f 6e 2e 20 20 0d 0d 38 42 53 2d 34 36 20 |hion. ..8BS-46 | 00000770 77 6f 72 6b 65 64 20 66 69 6e 65 20 6f 6e 20 74 |worked fine on t| 00000780 68 65 20 45 6c 65 63 74 72 6f 6e 2c 69 6e 20 38 |he Electron,in 8| 00000790 30 20 63 6f 6c 20 6d 6f 64 65 20 2c 61 73 20 64 |0 col mode ,as d| 000007a0 65 73 63 72 69 62 65 64 20 61 62 6f 76 65 2e 0d |escribed above..| 000007b0 48 6f 77 65 76 65 72 20 49 20 68 61 64 20 61 20 |However I had a | 000007c0 62 69 74 20 6f 66 1a 20 62 6f 74 68 65 72 1a 20 |bit of. bother. | 000007d0 77 69 74 68 1a 20 54 42 31 2d 30 30 2c 77 68 69 |with. TB1-00,whi| 000007e0 63 68 20 67 61 76 65 20 22 4e 6f 20 72 6f 6f 6d |ch gave "No room| 000007f0 22 65 72 72 6f 72 73 2e 0d 4d 79 20 70 6c 75 73 |"errors..My plus| 00000800 20 33 20 69 73 20 61 6e 20 6f 72 69 67 69 6e 61 | 3 is an origina| 00000810 6c 20 41 63 6f 72 6e 20 22 4c 22 20 73 68 61 70 |l Acorn "L" shap| 00000820 65 64 20 6f 6e 65 1a 20 77 68 69 63 68 20 74 61 |ed one. which ta| 00000830 6b 65 73 20 70 61 67 65 20 77 69 74 68 20 41 44 |kes page with AD| 00000840 46 53 0d 74 6f 20 31 44 30 30 2c 77 68 69 63 68 |FS.to 1D00,which| 00000850 20 49 20 6b 6e 6f 77 20 63 61 6e 20 62 65 20 61 | I know can be a| 00000860 20 70 72 6f 62 6c 65 6d 2e 46 6f 72 74 75 6e 61 | problem.Fortuna| 00000870 74 65 6c 79 20 74 68 6f 75 67 68 20 6d 79 20 45 |tely though my E| 00000880 6c 65 63 74 72 6f 6e 20 68 61 73 20 61 0d 53 6c |lectron has a.Sl| 00000890 6f 67 67 65 72 20 36 34 4b 20 4d 52 42 20 66 69 |ogger 64K MRB fi| 000008a0 74 74 65 64 2c 73 6f 20 49 20 77 61 73 20 61 62 |tted,so I was ab| 000008b0 6c 65 20 74 6f 20 72 75 6e 20 54 42 31 2d 30 30 |le to run TB1-00| 000008c0 20 69 6e 20 36 34 4b 20 6d 6f 64 65 20 77 69 74 | in 64K mode wit| 000008d0 68 20 6e 6f 20 69 6c 6c 0d 65 66 66 65 63 74 73 |h no ill.effects| 000008e0 2e 0d 0d 20 4f 56 45 52 41 4c 4c 0d 20 41 6e 79 |... OVERALL. Any| 000008f0 77 61 79 2c 74 68 65 20 75 70 73 68 6f 74 20 6f |way,the upshot o| 00000900 66 20 69 74 20 61 6c 6c 20 69 73 20 49 20 6c 69 |f it all is I li| 00000910 6b 65 20 77 68 61 74 20 49 27 76 65 20 73 65 65 |ke what I've see| 00000920 6e 20 73 6f 1a 20 66 61 72 1a 20 6f 66 1a 20 38 |n so. far. of. 8| 00000930 42 53 20 61 6e 64 0d 73 6f 1a 20 49 27 76 65 1a |BS and.so. I've.| 00000940 20 65 6e 72 6f 6c 6c 65 64 20 66 6f 72 20 6d 65 | enrolled for me| 00000950 6d 62 65 72 73 68 69 70 2e 41 73 20 49 20 75 6e |mbership.As I un| 00000960 64 65 72 73 74 61 6e 64 20 69 74 2c 43 68 72 69 |derstand it,Chri| 00000970 73 20 69 73 20 73 74 75 64 79 69 6e 67 20 74 68 |s is studying th| 00000980 65 0d 45 6c 6b 2c 73 6f 20 69 74 20 73 68 6f 75 |e.Elk,so it shou| 00000990 6c 64 20 62 65 63 6f 6d 65 20 6d 6f 72 65 20 45 |ld become more E| 000009a0 6c 6b 20 66 72 69 65 6e 64 6c 79 20 61 73 20 74 |lk friendly as t| 000009b0 69 6d 65 20 67 6f 65 73 20 6f 6e 2e 43 65 72 74 |ime goes on.Cert| 000009c0 61 69 6e 6c 79 20 74 68 65 20 50 44 0d 6c 69 62 |ainly the PD.lib| 000009d0 72 61 72 79 20 69 73 20 69 6e 63 72 65 64 69 62 |rary is incredib| 000009e0 6c 65 2c 61 6e 64 1a 20 67 65 74 74 69 6e 67 1a |le,and. getting.| 000009f0 20 62 69 67 67 65 72 1a 20 61 6c 6c 20 74 68 65 | bigger. all the| 00000a00 20 74 69 6d 65 2e 49 74 73 20 77 6f 72 74 68 20 | time.Its worth | 00000a10 62 65 69 6e 67 20 61 0d 6d 65 6d 62 65 72 1a 20 |being a.member. | 00000a20 6a 75 73 74 1a 20 66 6f 72 1a 20 74 68 61 74 1a |just. for. that.| 00000a30 20 61 6e 64 1a 20 61 6c 73 6f 20 74 68 65 20 45 | and. also the E| 00000a40 70 72 6f 6d 1a 20 70 72 6f 67 72 61 6d 6d 69 6e |prom. programmin| 00000a50 67 1a 20 73 65 72 76 69 63 65 1a 20 74 68 61 74 |g. service. that| 00000a60 27 73 0d 61 76 61 69 6c 61 62 6c 65 2e 41 73 20 |'s.available.As | 00000a70 66 61 72 20 61 73 20 49 27 6d 20 63 6f 6e 63 65 |far as I'm conce| 00000a80 72 6e 65 64 20 69 74 1a 20 77 69 6c 6c 1a 20 6e |rned it. will. n| 00000a90 65 76 65 72 1a 20 72 65 70 6c 61 63 65 1a 20 45 |ever. replace. E| 00000aa0 55 47 2c 62 75 74 1a 20 69 74 20 69 73 0d 64 65 |UG,but. it is.de| 00000ab0 66 69 6e 69 74 65 6c 79 20 77 65 6c 6c 20 77 6f |finitely well wo| 00000ac0 72 74 68 20 73 75 70 70 6f 72 74 69 6e 67 2e 0d |rth supporting..| 00000ad0 0d 0d |..| 00000ad2
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