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| Filename: | +Edit1 |
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| File size: | 08AF bytes |
| Load address: | 2B206576 |
| Exec address: | 74696445 |
File contents
I watched an interesting report on EBN, a cable TV channel for business about a service offered by Tesco which enables people to shop using their computers. For our non-UK members Tesco is a major supermarket chain. A female EBN reporter who has a lot of experience using a computer in her work, and is a working mother tried it out. The ideal candidate. She kept hitting problems, like having to connect to an internet provider first, though she hadn't actually been told she would have to. She had great difficulity using the selection system which involved picking an item and placing it onto a icon of a shopping basket. And perhaps the most silly problem, she asked for a pint of milk and the program said, no such item. She then asked for a list if milk items and was presented with 250 different one from which she had to find her pint of milk. She took in excess of 2 hours to do her shopping by computer while she later did the same shopping in a local Tesco store in about 1/2 hour. The excuse being made is that the program is in its early stages and will be refined later. That really is no excuse. Tesco for reasons best known to themselves have half heartedly approached this market and made a hash of it. It reminds me of something British Telecom tried a few years ago, 1987 I think. They offered access to their Yellow Pages directories via a modem. This service was intended to be open to 8 bit computer users. I contacted the number but was asked for a pass word. After a lot of effort and 'phoning around I eventually spoke to a department of BT who were suppose to be dealing with this system. They told me that there were different passwords for each region on the UK. They gave me the pass word to access the Portsmouth Yellow pages but refused to give me any for any other region. They said that I would have to write in asking for these and explain my reasons for wanting them! A short while later the service closed for 'lack of use!!'. Computer technolgy is so simple, yet some people seemed determined to make it as complicated as possible presumably to perpetuate the myth that they are somehow intellectually superior to the rest of us because they can understand it. Gus. 01705 781168
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Tesc| 00000460 6f 20 66 6f 72 20 72 65 61 73 6f 6e 73 20 62 65 |o for reasons be| 00000470 73 74 20 6b 6e 6f 77 6e 20 74 6f 20 74 68 65 6d |st known to them| 00000480 73 65 6c 76 65 73 20 68 61 76 65 0d 68 61 6c 66 |selves have.half| 00000490 20 68 65 61 72 74 65 64 6c 79 20 61 70 70 72 6f | heartedly appro| 000004a0 61 63 68 65 64 20 74 68 69 73 20 6d 61 72 6b 65 |ached this marke| 000004b0 74 20 61 6e 64 20 6d 61 64 65 20 61 20 68 61 73 |t and made a has| 000004c0 68 20 6f 66 20 69 74 2e 20 49 74 20 72 65 6d 69 |h of it. It remi| 000004d0 6e 64 73 20 6d 65 0d 6f 66 20 73 6f 6d 65 74 68 |nds me.of someth| 000004e0 69 6e 67 20 42 72 69 74 69 73 68 20 54 65 6c 65 |ing British Tele| 000004f0 63 6f 6d 20 74 72 69 65 64 20 61 20 66 65 77 20 |com tried a few | 00000500 79 65 61 72 73 20 61 67 6f 2c 20 31 39 38 37 20 |years ago, 1987 | 00000510 49 20 74 68 69 6e 6b 2e 20 54 68 65 79 0d 6f 66 |I think. They.of| 00000520 66 65 72 65 64 20 61 63 63 65 73 73 20 74 6f 20 |fered access to | 00000530 74 68 65 69 72 20 59 65 6c 6c 6f 77 20 50 61 67 |their Yellow Pag| 00000540 65 73 20 64 69 72 65 63 74 6f 72 69 65 73 20 76 |es directories v| 00000550 69 61 20 61 20 6d 6f 64 65 6d 2e 20 54 68 69 73 |ia a modem. This| 00000560 20 73 65 72 76 69 63 65 0d 77 61 73 20 69 6e 74 | service.was int| 00000570 65 6e 64 65 64 20 74 6f 20 62 65 20 6f 70 65 6e |ended to be open| 00000580 20 74 6f 20 38 20 62 69 74 20 63 6f 6d 70 75 74 | to 8 bit comput| 00000590 65 72 20 75 73 65 72 73 2e 20 49 20 63 6f 6e 74 |er users. I cont| 000005a0 61 63 74 65 64 20 74 68 65 20 6e 75 6d 62 65 72 |acted the number| 000005b0 0d 62 75 74 20 77 61 73 20 61 73 6b 65 64 20 66 |.but was asked f| 000005c0 6f 72 20 61 20 70 61 73 73 20 77 6f 72 64 2e 20 |or a pass word. | 000005d0 41 66 74 65 72 20 61 20 6c 6f 74 20 6f 66 20 65 |After a lot of e| 000005e0 66 66 6f 72 74 20 61 6e 64 20 27 70 68 6f 6e 69 |ffort and 'phoni| 000005f0 6e 67 20 61 72 6f 75 6e 64 20 49 0d 65 76 65 6e |ng around I.even| 00000600 74 75 61 6c 6c 79 20 73 70 6f 6b 65 20 74 6f 20 |tually spoke to | 00000610 61 20 64 65 70 61 72 74 6d 65 6e 74 20 6f 66 20 |a department of | 00000620 42 54 20 77 68 6f 20 77 65 72 65 20 73 75 70 70 |BT who were supp| 00000630 6f 73 65 20 74 6f 20 62 65 20 64 65 61 6c 69 6e |ose to be dealin| 00000640 67 20 77 69 74 68 0d 74 68 69 73 20 73 79 73 74 |g with.this syst| 00000650 65 6d 2e 20 54 68 65 79 20 74 6f 6c 64 20 6d 65 |em. They told me| 00000660 20 74 68 61 74 20 74 68 65 72 65 20 77 65 72 65 | that there were| 00000670 20 64 69 66 66 65 72 65 6e 74 20 70 61 73 73 77 | different passw| 00000680 6f 72 64 73 20 66 6f 72 20 65 61 63 68 0d 72 65 |ords for each.re| 00000690 67 69 6f 6e 20 6f 6e 20 74 68 65 20 55 4b 2e 20 |gion on the UK. | 000006a0 54 68 65 79 20 67 61 76 65 20 6d 65 20 74 68 65 |They gave me the| 000006b0 20 70 61 73 73 20 77 6f 72 64 20 74 6f 20 61 63 | pass word to ac| 000006c0 63 65 73 73 20 74 68 65 20 50 6f 72 74 73 6d 6f |cess the Portsmo| 000006d0 75 74 68 0d 59 65 6c 6c 6f 77 20 70 61 67 65 73 |uth.Yellow pages| 000006e0 20 62 75 74 20 72 65 66 75 73 65 64 20 74 6f 20 | but refused to | 000006f0 67 69 76 65 20 6d 65 20 61 6e 79 20 66 6f 72 20 |give me any for | 00000700 61 6e 79 20 6f 74 68 65 72 20 72 65 67 69 6f 6e |any other region| 00000710 2e 20 54 68 65 79 20 73 61 69 64 0d 74 68 61 74 |. They said.that| 00000720 20 49 20 77 6f 75 6c 64 20 68 61 76 65 20 74 6f | I would have to| 00000730 20 77 72 69 74 65 20 69 6e 20 61 73 6b 69 6e 67 | write in asking| 00000740 20 66 6f 72 20 74 68 65 73 65 20 61 6e 64 20 65 | for these and e| 00000750 78 70 6c 61 69 6e 20 6d 79 20 72 65 61 73 6f 6e |xplain my reason| 00000760 73 20 66 6f 72 0d 77 61 6e 74 69 6e 67 20 74 68 |s for.wanting th| 00000770 65 6d 21 20 41 20 73 68 6f 72 74 20 77 68 69 6c |em! A short whil| 00000780 65 20 6c 61 74 65 72 20 74 68 65 20 73 65 72 76 |e later the serv| 00000790 69 63 65 20 63 6c 6f 73 65 64 20 66 6f 72 20 27 |ice closed for '| 000007a0 6c 61 63 6b 20 6f 66 20 75 73 65 21 21 27 2e 0d |lack of use!!'..| 000007b0 0d 43 6f 6d 70 75 74 65 72 20 74 65 63 68 6e 6f |.Computer techno| 000007c0 6c 67 79 20 69 73 20 73 6f 20 73 69 6d 70 6c 65 |lgy is so simple| 000007d0 2c 20 79 65 74 20 73 6f 6d 65 20 70 65 6f 70 6c |, yet some peopl| 000007e0 65 20 73 65 65 6d 65 64 20 64 65 74 65 72 6d 69 |e seemed determi| 000007f0 6e 65 64 20 74 6f 20 6d 61 6b 65 0d 69 74 20 61 |ned to make.it a| 00000800 73 20 63 6f 6d 70 6c 69 63 61 74 65 64 20 61 73 |s complicated as| 00000810 20 70 6f 73 73 69 62 6c 65 20 70 72 65 73 75 6d | possible presum| 00000820 61 62 6c 79 20 74 6f 20 70 65 72 70 65 74 75 61 |ably to perpetua| 00000830 74 65 20 74 68 65 20 6d 79 74 68 20 74 68 61 74 |te the myth that| 00000840 20 74 68 65 79 0d 61 72 65 20 73 6f 6d 65 68 6f | they.are someho| 00000850 77 20 69 6e 74 65 6c 6c 65 63 74 75 61 6c 6c 79 |w intellectually| 00000860 20 73 75 70 65 72 69 6f 72 20 74 6f 20 74 68 65 | superior to the| 00000870 20 72 65 73 74 20 6f 66 20 75 73 20 62 65 63 61 | rest of us beca| 00000880 75 73 65 20 74 68 65 79 20 63 61 6e 0d 75 6e 64 |use they can.und| 00000890 65 72 73 74 61 6e 64 20 69 74 2e 0d 0d 47 75 73 |erstand it...Gus| 000008a0 2e 0d 30 31 37 30 35 20 37 38 31 31 36 38 0d |..01705 781168.| 000008af
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