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Filename: LETTERS/LETT4
Read OK: ✔
File size: 1DEB bytes
Load address: 4C204556
Exec address: 34545445
File contents
                                        Christian Weber
Dear Gus,

Your draw program seemed quite a good job, I'm going to try to convert it 
to MODE3 screens and include icons ect. as you suggested. I don't think 
that many changes to the program are really needed and those I may make 
will gobble up too much memory in MODE0! I'm too use to all that memory 
available on my PC and my programming has become sloppy!

The EUG title screen.

I don't know why you thought the old title screen was boring, I think 
that the new screen per issue will make EUG look irregular. Imagine 
electron user having its title in a different font each issue. It would 
look messy and make it look less professional. The same title screen per 
issue gives familiarity with the magazine. By taking away this 
familiarity you immediately alienate readers from feeling comfortable 
with something they're use to. It's all psycological.

Having a go at the PC:

Slow loading new PCs? Have you seen the new pentium 90Mhz machine 
running? That's what I call real speed! You know where I stand with the 
PC and I cannot understand why people think they are a waste of time. As 
for the length of time it takes to load software where did you hear this? 
Most high street shops were impressed by the speed of the new 486DX4 and 
the bench marks for the pentiums. It wasn't the PC that made Comodore go 
bust, it was the console industry. The PC was just the final nail in the 
coffin.

The letters page:

Now I may have mentioned to Will in the past about the letters page, My 
letter in issue 14 was one such instance. But I felt that the majority of 
letters were just space filling. Please could you edit out the 'Here is 
my cheque for `xx.xx" form the letters?

I know that there are a lot of people who wish to meet other Elk users 
but is it really necessary in the letters section? I'm sorry but I don't 
want to read letters telling me who they are married to and how many 
children they've got. It was like reading an indepth lonely hearts 
column. I'm all for making friends via EUG but not in the letters page.

There's an age gap...:

The old EUG appealed to all age groups and there was no age distinction 
within the articles.

Now looking at EUG there is a definate age gap occuring. OK so most of 
the members I assume are 35+. But how would you feel as editor if I 
started sending you articles about 'chart' music (which is about as 
likely as me eating my socks)? This would no doubt not be looked at by 
the older members and many would probably complain. It is also irrelevant 
to the elk and computers in general.

In the old EUG I would read every article although I may not understand 
them fully I wanted to digest the information they contained. I found 
myself scanning through the last two issues of EUG.

Is there any chance of a non-leading questionare being put in a future 
issue of EUG relating to the mag as it stands. Practical ideas got read 
by myself to make sure that it was how I thought it would be, and much to 
my dissappointment it was.

So apart from the above comments EUG gets a thumbs up from me but if the 
age range of the mag becomes more evident and I find myself reading less 
articles then...who knows at the moment.

You should find enclosed a cheque for two more issues of EUG.

I almost forgot, if anybody has any problems with a game and has written 
to you I take my EUG folder with me to Uni. so I should be able to help 
either with my own experience or what I've collated in my folder. 

I was wondering if there would be a regular PD column in EUG? I'm not 
volunteering for the position but if you loke the idea then I'll be more 
than willing to write it. Perhaps Richard would feel as though I'd be 
stepping on his toes if I or anyone else did write a PD column as the two 
subjects would cross over.

What made me think of a PD column was that there is a lot of good stuff 
on the PD circuit for the Elk at the moment as my own personal experience 
with Moss PD has proved and the demo in EUG15. If a PD column is not to 
be then I may include some PD games in Elk Ent if that's OK with you.

The main reason for me not writing a regular PD column is that I already 
write Elk Ent and I don't want to hog the mag. But if you loke the PD 
column idea and nobody else wants to write it then as I've said I am 
quite keen to give it a go.

On the subject of going I'd better go a I've got loads of packing to 
finish

C Weber.

THIS WAS A LETTER WHICH CHRISTIAN SENT TO ME. I THOUGHT THE POINTS HE 
MADE WERE LIKELY TO BE OF INTEREST TO OTHER MEMBERS SO I TYPED IT IN.
SOME PARAGRAPHS I DID NOT TYPE IN BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT REALLY RELEVANT 
TO ANYONE ELSE.

I HOPE OTHER MEMBERS WILL TAKE THE TROUBLE TO RESPOND WITH THEIR POINTS 
OF VIEW IN THE SAME WAY CHRISTIAN HAS DONE. I AM GOING TO MAKE SOME 
POINTS OF REPLY NOW.

TITLE SCREEN. I CAN ONLY SAY THAT I DISAGREE. ALSO EUG IS NOT AND WHILE 
I'M EDITOR WILL NEVER TRY TO BE ELECTRON USER. 

PC'S THE PENTIUM DOES LOAD SOFTWARE MORE QUICKLY THAN OTHER PC'S BUT IT 
IS STILL SLOWER THAN THE ELK. ON MY ELK I USE A !BOOT FILE TO LOAD 
STARWORD INTO SIDEWAYS RAM, INITIALISE IT, DO A *WORD, CALL THE 
RELEVANT DIRECTORY, SET UP SOME FUNCTION KEYS, AND LIST THE DIRECTORY. 
THE WHOLE PROCESS TAKES ABOUT 10 SECONDS. THE PENTIUM CAN'T BEAT THAT. 
FIGURES LIKE 90Mhz ARE MEANINGLESS WHEN THE SPEED OF A WORD PROCESSOR IS 
GOVERNED BY THE SPEED OF MY FINGERS. I OWN A PC, A 386 NOTEBOOK.I CAN 
PUT MY ACCOUNTS ONTO A DISK WHICH MY ACCOUNTANT CAN USE AND BECAUSE IT 
IS BATTERY OPERATED AND I CAN TAKE AND USE IT ANYWHERE. PC'S ARE GOOD 
MACHINES AND MORE IMPORTANTLY SOFTWARE CAN BE EASILY USED IN DIFFERENT 
MACHINES BUT THEY ARE NOT ALL SINGING,ALL DANCING, ALL THINGS TO ALL 
MEN. THEY ARE TOOLS WHICH LIKE THE ELK AND EVEN MY `7 SCIENTIFIC 
CALCULATOR ARE GOOD FOR CERTAIN THINGS BUT NOT SO GOOD FOR OTHERS. I 
DID AN EXAM RECENTLY INVOLVING A LOT OF MATHS. MY PC AND MY ELK DESPITE 
THEIR SOPHISTICATION WOULD HAVE BEEN USELESS. I NEEDED A POCKET 
CALCULATOR. I COULD HAVE GOT A PROGRAM COSTING PERHAPS `??? TO DO 
INVERSE EQUASIONS, TRIGONOMETORY, AND THE REST BUT WOULD I REALLY HAVE 
BEEN BETTER OFF IN AN EXAM WITH TIME CONSTRAINSTS WAITING FOR A PC TO 
GET AROUND TO DOING WHAT I WANTED IT TO DO? SO IS MY `7 POCKET 
CALCULATOR BETTER THAT MY PC? NO, IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT TOOL FOR A 
DIFFERENT JOB. MY ELK LIKE MY OLD SET OF SCREWDRIVERS IS A TRIED AND 
TRUSTED TOOL WHICH NEVER LETS ME DOWN AND UNLIKE MY PC HAS NEVER CLAIMED 
TO BE MORE THAN WHAT IT IS.

LETTERS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T READ IT. THERE'S PLENTY MORE TO READ 
IN EUG. THE LETTERS SECTION IS I THINK THE BEST PLACE TO PUT LETTERS. 
AND I THINK THE ANALOGY WITH A LONELY HEARTS COLUMN IS UNDULY FLIPPANT.

AGE GAP. I AM NOT AWARE OF THIS AT ALL. SOME MEMBERS HAVE BEGUN TO 
INTRODUCE THEMSELVES IN THE LETTERS PAGE. THESE ARE THE SAME MEMBERS AS 
BEFORE. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SEND IN SOMETHING ABOUT CHART MUSIC DO SO. MY 
MOTHER IN LAW HAS JUST STARTED DRAWING HER PENSION. FOR HER BIRTHDAY I 
GAVE HER ONE OF THOSE TINY FM RADIOS SO THAT SHE CAN LISTEN TO RADIO 1. 
FOR MY PART I LIKE RADIO 4, AND BLAKE'S 7 ON UK GOLD.

I CAN ONLY PUBLISH WHAT MEMBERS SEND SO WHAT SORT OF EUG WE HAVE IS UP 
TO YOU. IF YOU WANT TO SEE SOMETHING, SEND IT IN. THEN SOMEONE ELSE 
MIGHT SENT IN THEIR IDEAS ON THE SAME SUBJECT. 

PD COLUMN. IF YOU CAN MAINTAIN THE STANDARD IN A PD COLUMN THAT YOU HAVE 
ESTABLISHED IN ELK ENT THEN, SENT IT IN. I KNOW A NUMBER OF MEMBERS WILL 
LOOK FORWARD TO IT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT COMES FROM YOU, MYSELF INCLUDED.

BEST OF LUCK AT UNIVERSITY.

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